Discussing the way we are going to use the blocking? flag

We started a discussion on the subject on the tb-planning[1] mailing list. Feedback welcome and wanted. [1] https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/tb-planning ludo -- Ludovic Hirlimann MozillaMessaging QA lead http://www.spreadthunderbird.com/aff/79/2

IMAP: A message locking on server side.

Hi, I have a bit unusual and hard question. Is it possible, by any IMAP command, to "lock a message" by certain client (Thunderbird)? My problem is following: If two users have opened shared IMAP folder at the same time and they both have installed my extension (that creates new messages from received messages and then deletes original message) then there is race condition of my extension. It creates two messages from one received. Is there any way to prevent doing this over IMAP? PM-

lockprefs, filename did matter. A or Z

Hello. I remember seeing somewhere someone saying that when I do a lockpref setting file its filename did matter (alphabetical order of reading or something). Which one did it read last, IE. which file was it that affected the settings? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Lock_Prefs does seem rather old. Is there more up to date version of this document? Timo Pietil�

suggestion: showing a helpful tip when search against newsgroup fails.

Currently, if I try to search the headers of newsgroup against news.mozilla.org, I got "chaining not allowed message". This "chaning not allowed" obviously comes from the server. Using wireshark packet sniffer, I figured out the following interaction when I try to search for "javascript" in the header of articles.: 200 news.mozilla.org MODE READER 200 reading enabled GROUP mozilla.support.thunderbird 211 96002 2 96003 mozilla.support.thunderbird XPAT SUBJECT 1- *[Jj][Aa][Vv][Aa][Ss][Cc][Rr][Ii][Pp][Tt]* 440 chaining not allowed 503 time out Then it hit upon me that I file

Where is the result of mozmill?

Hi, I just run make mozmill Is there any test result file or test log file after running mozmill? Thanks, Jie

there's a new serif in town

Hey - We've recently made a change to the default font choice for Thunderbird from serif fonts to sans-serif [1]. If you haven't had a chance to test this I'd encourage you to give the latest nightly (with a new profile) a try. Alternately you could continue using your existing profile but edit your font preferences via Preferences -> Display -> (Fonts) Advanced... In the Font dialog you'll want to Proportional to Sans-Serif; you need to do this for both your default language as well as "Other Languages" which is really UTF-8 in disguise. Along with the change to sans-

3.1 triaging pass completed

I went through the 3.1 blocking+ and blocking? list and lopped off a whole bunch of bugs (somewhere between 30 and 50, I think). That leaves us with approximately 55 current bugs, which I suspect is still too many. There are probably still some bits of fat that can be trimmed off, however. Tomorrow, I'll go through various meeting notes I've got and make sure everything there is captured in the blocking list. After that, I'll try and load balance the beta2 bugs a bit and see what our options are (current hopes are still that it will be possible to hit March 23, which is

Silent install with tweaking possibility suggestion

Hello. Currently Thunderbird (and firefox and ...) do not allow any kind of pre-installation tweaking for silent installs. I wonder how difficult it could be to make installations with possibility for some sort of answer file (kinda like .mst for .msi) that could be tweaked to set lockprefs, default settings, UI-settings, account defaults etc. Any thoughts? Could that be done in some near-future version? "Mozilla_installation_tweaker.exe" with xml -answer file as result and installations with say "setup_thunderbird.exe /f:settings.xml". That would make many people with nee

Allow HTML Temp

Does anybody know if Allow HTML Temp Extension by Alexander Ihrig will be updated for TB3/SM2? I have hacked the RDF file to make it install, but there is no evidence of it when I restart the application. I have tried to contact Alexander without success. This was such a great extension, and I really miss it. For the life of me I cannot understand why the standard "View Message Body As" menu item does not just work for the current message. There should be a default for newly displayed messages (perhaps configurable on a per-server basis), and then a temporary override for the curre

Why thunderbird opens all .msf files on start

Hi, all, One Sun internal user reported that he got error messages say "Too many files open" when he launch Thunderbird 3.0 on Opensolaris. After some investigation, I found his thunderbird tried to open all .msf files on startup. Because he has so many mail folders, that thunderbird exceeds the max number of opened files. Does anyone know under what conditions that TB will open all .msf files on startup? Thanks Brian

Nominate deserving persons for Thunderbird Friends of the Tree (FotT)

A longstanding tradition in mozilla, Friends of the Tree (FotT) is recognition of persons who have "contributed to any area of the project - testing, submitting patches, helping users, writing documentation, etc. Friends of the Tree are nominated in advance of the projects' weekly status meetings, and are published in the Mozilla (Firefox) meeting minutes or Thunderbird meeting minutes." - https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Glossary#FotT - http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2007/08/friends_of_the.html You may nominate for the Thunderbird and mailnews arena at any time by

patch: Message Compose Window

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545688 Outlook 2007 quietly ignores the <blockquote> tag when it renders email messages. This is an issue when reading messages created in Thunderbird because the tag is used to highlight quoted text. As such, it becomes impossible to read replies made in Usenet (in-line) style. I submitted a patch a while ago, but there is no activity in the bug. Could someone assign/review please? Thanks, Oleg.

[ATTENTION] Call for non-English Mac testers on Thunderbird

Hi guys, the Thunderbird developers are thinking about changing the default font for the message reader on Mac OS X from a serif font to a sans-serif font. As we have now 50 different locales, it's hard to determine whether this is the right choice for every locale. We've prepared a try-server build for you to test this[1]. We would appreciate it if each of our localizers (and other interested folks of course) could download this build, test it and give us feedback (positive or negative) in bug 520824[2] within the next seven days. To test this, please follow these steps:

Best build to run to help the project.

At the moment If you want to run a bleeding edge version of Thunderbird, you need to choose between running 3.2x and 3.1x builds. In fact, it appears that most people willing to run bleeding edge are now running 3.2x builds. Whilst our most dedicated testers are running 3.2x builds, the engineering team is working on bringing features and bug fixes to the 3.1x branch. There's a discrepancy here. This means that the issues that might exist in 3.1x have a greater chance to be discovered after releases rather than before. It's easy to fix that, instead of running 3.2x builds, we woul

Subject No Longer Drag and Droppable

Environment: Tb3.0.1, Win7 Previous versions of Tb allowed one to highlight then drag and drop the Subject onto the search bar. This was a very convenient feature for bringing a particular thread in its entirety into view; especially when View>Threads>Unread is set, i.e., it would quickly bring into view all the posts for that subject, including the already read ones. The workaround is to copy the subject and then paste it into the search bar but this involves a couple of more steps and is no where near as convenient. Before I file a bug I'd like to know if this a known/re

Tb 3.0.1 toolkit different than Fx 3.6

I have a set of themes that work with both Fx 3.6 and Tb 3.0.1. In developing them, I used the Fx 3.6 theme's global/ path files for both clients. In testing the theme I noticed that I was getting a slew of errors on the Tb javascript console that weren't present on Fx. I found that the Gecko version is different between the two and it seems there are changes in the toolkits that are theme-dependent. The style properties in Fx that are not recognized in Tb are: :-moz-locale-dir(rtl) :root:-moz-lwtheme, [lwthemefooter="true"] :-moz-lwtheme-darktext :-moz-lwtheme-brighttext

Thunderbird in 2010

I read with great interest David Ascher's blog entry about Thunderbird in 2010 (http://ascher.ca/blog/2010/02/10/thunderbird-in-2010/). What I couldn't find there was where Thunderbird is headed in the mid- and long-term from a *functional* point of view. For instance : 1- Become a unified messaging center (Raindrop ?) 2- Become a full-fledge PIM, by adding features such as notes and tasks. 3- Become an Outlook replacement for people who have to live in an MS-Exchange environment. I am not trying to push specifically those 3 items (by the way, I have a strong interest for only

Thunderbird 3.0.2 beta available for testing

Candidate builds of Thunderbird 3.0.2 are now available for testing. Note: these are intended for pre-release testing and are not recommended for production use. Download You can get the Thunderbird 3.0.2 builds here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/nightly/3.0.2-candidates/build1/ Update If you have previously downloaded a beta version of Thunderbird 3 or have manually set your copy to be using the "beta" release channel for updates, you can update yourself to Thunderbird 3.0.2 by selecting "Help > Check for Updates". Feedback and Bugs If you see any issues wit

Shredder 3.0.3 auto update and Lightning

the auto-update of the Shredder nightly build (tonight) suggests that Lightning 1.0 Beta 2 PRE (Jan 31 2010) is incompatible. Anyone care to comment? There doesn't seem to be any newer version of Lightning available, unless Shredder 3.0.3 uses comm-1.9.2 (I'm guessing not?).

No localized release of Thunderbird 3.1 alpha1

Dear localizers, I just wanted to inform you that the Thunderbird team will release the upcoming Thunderbird 3.1 alpha1 (codename Lanikai) milestone only in English. The reason is mostly that we haven't been able to setup an application target for TB 3.1 on the l10n dashboard yet. The fact, that Firefox also doesn't release its first alpha in localized versions also played into that decision. Our next scheduled release, Thunderbird 3.1 beta1 is scheduled to be released roughly one month from now. This release will be a fully localized release. I hope you will hop on board then.

Thunderbird 3.1a1 nightly testing requested; comm-central still closed for the moment

[Posted to a variety of places; followups/replies redirected to dev-apps-thunderbird] The 3.1a1 builds are now going green and should have the UI hanging issue fixed. This means they should be usable as dogfood at the very least, and may even be, if we're sufficiently lucky, based on the changeset that we'll end up using for 3.1a1RC1. This means that it would be great if folks could try using the nightly builds from tomorrow (Sunday, 1/17) as dogfood. <ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.2/> is where they will appear once they're built. If you se

Offtopic: Testset of emails

Hi, as I am currently developing a web mail interface to access an IMAP-server, I was wondering how to get a good set of emails to test support for real life mail variants. I am looking for various encodings, text- vs. html-messages and any strange kind of format that is out there. Does the Thunderbird-project use some kind of test set to harness Thunderbird? Would be great to receive some help here. But please do not send any test-amils to the adress Im am posting this under. Thanks, Philipp Please remove _NOSPAM_ in adress to answer

Create a new contact from the mail header and place it directly in given address book (in case one has several)

From the mail header, it is possible to create a new contact entry for a recipient or sender, but no to place it in a chosen address book, which makes the feature quite useless. Am I missing something here? Thanks

Proposal: Upgrade Thunderbird's MozMill version to 1.3 after Thunderbird 3.1a1 is cut/branched

Currently the Thunderbird Mozmill Tests [1] require running on MozMill 1.2 (with jsbridge 2.0 and mozrunner 1.2.1.1). We'd like to update this to the latest MozMill - 1.3 [2] . However, because some of the command-line options have changed, we cannot support running of MozMill 1.2 instead. I don't see any barriers to doing this upgrade - there aren't any other compatibility issues with this upgrade. I'm proposing that we upgrade soon after the Thunderbird 3.1a1 branch is cut and before we reopen the tree, which will probably be on or before Tuesday. When this happens, I

How to reclassify Bug 325458?

Greetings. As noted in the exchange below with Brian Lu, this bug, "Bug 325458 - Nickname not highest precedence for matching," is being described by a number of users on bugzilla and in the related "Getsatisfaction.com" conversations as a major loss of function. As one user noted, "anything that causes mail to get sent to the wrong user inadvertently is just about he worst possible problem a mailer can have." The bug entry is currently classified as an enhancement request. I'm hoping you can point me to the right process for getting the bug reclassified as a loss of functionali

Thunderbird 3 - tree column display/hide

Hi, I'm doing repost of a posting from the extension newsgroup, hoping someone here is able to solve my problem. --- Hi, I'm trying to display and hide a custom column in the threadTree of Thunderbird. With TB2 it worked as it did with the last beta and rc builds of TB3. Using the TB3 final, the column is hidden all the time - regardless of my manipulation of the hidden attribute of the treecol. Whenever I'm adding some blocking code (alerts) in the line after the removeAttribute('hidden') (or the setAttribute('hidden', 'false')), my column is shown - but immediately after t

LWN review of Thunderbird 3

http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/368768/695d5a70e6c2e8fe/ (If you are interested in the goings-on in the free software world, do consider subscribing to LWN. It's excellent.) Gerv

Suggestions: print preview into a tab

Hello, At First: Thunderbird 3 is a wonderful software! My question or suggestions: Why the print preview does not open in a tab or in the "firefox way"? Albrecht

All Patches Landed for 3.0.1

Just a note to say that we've now landed all patches that we're intending for 3.0.1 into comm-1.9.1. I've just triggered extra nightlies which should be out in 2-3 hours. We'll be starting builds tomorrow and should have candidates out later this week. However, extra testing on the nightlies would be most welcome: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/ (you want the ones dated 10th, sometime after 11:00 PST). Standard8

Compose HTML formatted letters occasionally

Dear Thunderbird Developers and Community, I've been using Thunderbird for about five years. Lately I discovered that I don't need to send my messages in both HTML and Rich Text format, because I don't use advanced formattings in my mails that would require Rich Text/HTML format. Moreover this keeps a lot of internet traffic and server performance from wasting. So I went Tools - > Account Settings -> (my default email address) -> Composition & Addressing and deselected "Compose messages in HTML format". I was doing great for months since I first needed to send a formatted letter. I

New TB3 user: what are these files?

Please see: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=1688785 Thanks.

compact is evil

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?short_desc=compact%20;bug_severity=critical;bug_severity=major;bug_severity=normal;bug_severity=minor;resolution=---;query_format=advanced;longdesc=select%20display%20view;short_desc_type=allwordssubstr;product=MailNews%20Core;product=Thunderbird;longdesc_type=anywordssubstr and that's not even all of them. -- http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Testing http://www.spreadthunderbird.com/aff/165/

Dossier perdu

Bonjour, J'utilise Thunderbird depuis bien longtemps et je n'ai jamais ce type de "connerie" Dans le compte TRAVAIL j'ai cr=E9=E9 plusieurs dossiers de stockage des messages re=E7us. =C9tablissement Documentation Fournisseurs Rectorat Lors de la lecture d'un message, je me suis aper=E7us que mon compte "TRAVAIL" comportait deux dossiers "ETABLISSEMENT" Un que j'ai cr=E9=E9 avec un sous dossier GRETA, Un sans sous dossier. Voulant "faire le m=E9nage" j'ai d=E9plac=E9 les messages du dossier "ETABLISSEMENT" sans sous dossier au dossiers avec le sous dossier GRETA. J'ai

MDC page for TB 3.1

I've created a stub page on the Mozilla Developer Center for Thunderbird 3.1 changes: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird_3.1_for_developers This page is intended to provide a high-level overview of 3.1 changes that are relevant to developers. Please add short descriptions of your changes, along with links (to bugs and source docs). For an example, refer the "Thunderbird 3 for developers" page: http://developer.mozilla.org/En/Thunderbird_3_for_developers For now, please also add changes that impact end users. If there are a lot of these, I'll move them off to a se

Lanikai/Thunderbird 3.1 nightly builds now set up

There's been a few changes to our 3.1 builds setting up for the Lanikai branch and new trunk builds. Please see http://ccgi.standard8.plus.com/blog/archives/322 for the full details. Standard8

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Testing:Shutdown_Hang

created https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Testing:Shutdown_Hang yes, it generally applies to most types of hangs, but I didn't want to think any harder then necessary just yet. please add/adjust/improve! thanks -- http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Testing http://www.spreadthunderbird.com/aff/165/

TabSelect(ed) event ?

Hello, a difficult question Is there a "TabSelected" event (or something equivalent) for the tabmail / mailWindow? I am trying to determine the folder that was opened in the message preview by a mail tab being selected; so far (using SeaMonkey - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091206 SeaMonkey/2.0.1) I have debugged into tabMail.showTab which appears to cause tabmail.updateCurrentTab => any events there I could catch? When I am adding an event listener to the tabbrowser's "select" event obviously the folder is not set yet. Or is it possible to li

Thunderbird 3.1a1pre - Issues with Trunk Nightlies (now fixed)

Just in case anyone hits these: Windows: Yesterday's trunk nightly (and maybe a few before, I'm not sure) fails to start up. This was due to a packaging error. This is now fixed and the nightly builds are being respun - should be published within a couple of hours. To fix your own build, you'll need to download and install a new version: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/ In theory, updaters from a few days earlier to the new nightly when it is out (dated today) shouldn't be affected. Mac: Updates from slightly older 3

Looking for a test engineer

If anyone knows someone who'd be a great hire, I just blogged that we're looking to hire a test engineer to help us build systems that make it easier to write tests, run tests, identify failing tests, fix tests, etc. Blog post at: http://ascher.ca/blog/2009/12/22/looking-for-an-awesome-test-engineer/ Tell your testing-fanatic friends! --david

Bug or feature?

Hi there ! Is it the normal behavior that the "replied", "forwarded" and the other states of a message which are marked with an icon don't survive a TB restart? The fancy icon is gone every time the next nightly build has been installed. TIA fw

Gmail IMAP over 700MB folder indexer bug?

http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/thunderbird_cant_handle_large_mailboxes

My 2 most-wanted MailNews Core updates, in Thunderbird 3.1 cycle !?

Hi, Here two areas that I'm really hoping for (for some time), and I wonder if they could fit in the TB 3.1 cycle: Bug 506601 Create an own hg repository for directory (= ldap) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506601 See discussion in m.d.t.ldap. Bug 377319 - Convert mailnews to frozen/external linkages https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377319 The switch to full libxul could then happen in TB 3.2... Thanks.

netbook issues / mobile Thunderbird

Message: 2=0ADate: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:10:52 -0500=0AFrom: Wayne Mery <vsee= rror@lehigh.edu>=0ATo: dev-apps-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org=0ASubject: ne= tbook issues=0A=0A=0AI hope the list would give this a read. I have no doub= t many applications on Mobile Devices will get it wrong, but that is no exc= use for Thunderbird (or Modzilla) to get it wrong too.=0A=0A[ANN] Meta Dat= a Round-Tripping & Privacy=0A=0AFree White Paper=0A=0A=0AFrom the Foreword = ....=0A=0AThe trouble with meta data round trips between formats is the same= =0Aproblem with meta data round trips between =E2=80=

New mails in grouped view

Hi there ! Is there a way to tell TB to automagically open the "Today" tab if new mails arrive? At the moment, I have to click on the arrow every time. TIA fw

Thunderbird global search trunk fix landed for query words ending in non-ASCII characters (CJK seems unaffected)

There was a bug in Thunderbird's fulltext search tokenizer that would cause queries where the last character is not a-z (and not CJK) to fail under most circumstances. This has been been landed on Thunderbird trunk and will hopefully land on the Thunderbird 3.0.x branch shortly and in time for 3.0.1 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529824 Andrew

Overlay.xul and NoScript Addon Problem/hack

See: http://www.dshield.org/indexd.html -- Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion www.ufaq.org Netscape - Flock - Firefox - Thunderbird - Seamonkey Support

Re-download all newsgroup messages

I have configured a new newsgroup account and at the first connection, when TB prompt me a dialog box, I have choice to download 30 headers and then I have check option for mark all remain messages as read. Now I have changed idea and I want to dowload all messages of newsgroup. I have unscribed newsgroup, delete related account, deleted News folder on ly profile and the recreate the newsgroup account and I have subscribed the same newsgroup... but TB download always 30 messages. ps: another question when I subscrive this newsgroup, I see various duplicates messages (this happen

Hooks before/after connecting/disconnecting remote servers

I am now planning to write my first Thunderbird extension and looking for XPCOM hooks that are called before connecting and after disconnecting remote servers for each account. Where can I get the necessary information?

Profile migration from Thunderbird 2 to Thunderbird 3

Can I copy & paste the profile directory from Thunderbird 2 to Thunderbird 3 and it will work, or is there another better way? Thanks.

Doc Day - December 17

Please help out with Thunderbird's first Doc Day, this Thursday December 17. By expanding the developer documentation available to the community, you help people become involved with Thunderbird. You can: - contribute a how-to (http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extensions/Thunderbird/HowTos) - describe a new 3.0 feature or module - add some content to the Thunderbird Overview page (http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extensions/Thunderbird/An_overview_of_the_Thunderbird_interface) For more information see the blog post �RC 1 - Good Time for Docs� (http://blogs.mozillamessaging.c