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linux + thunderbird 3.03 + lightning 1.0b1 and caldav

Hi, I'm having issue connecting to my Zimbra based CalDav server using Thunderboink v3.03 and the Lightning plugin v1.0b1. I read were this won;t work and wanted to confirm. Any feedback is greatly appreciated. I can connect using iCal on OSX. - aurf

3/10/2010 10:47:25 PM 1 aurfalien <aurfal...@gmail.com>



The calendar is momentarily not available

Sunbird 0.9 on Windows 7 Home Premium x64. I am trying to subscribe to this calendar: <webcal://www.meetup.com/longislandroleplayers/calendar/ical/Long+Island+Role+Players+Meetup/>. It works in other calendaring programs (I've tested Outlook, Windows Calendar, and Windows Live Calendar), and I've successfully subscribed to another calendar <webcal://icalx.com/public/icalshare/US%20Holidays.ics>. Sunbird doesn't show the events in the calendar; it puts a bang next to the calendar name, whose title text reads "The calendar <NAME> is momentarily not available." Can anyone te

3/9/2010 5:53:58 PM 0 David Trimboli <da...@trimboli.name>
Need Lightning in Traditional Chinese version

The Lightning 1.0b1 has no Traditional Chinese verision which is using in Taiwan. As I checked this issue with Mozilla Taiwan group, they have finalized the translation and submitted the code to Mozilla. Maybe something wrong I don't don't know, but could it possible you can test and release the right traditional chinese version as soon as possile? Or any thing we can help to get it done please let us know. Thanks.

3/7/2010 3:37:10 AM 1 "Eric" <eric...@ms3.hinet.net>
Synchronization of Events With Sunbird

I have Sunbird 0.9 and my OS is Windows XP SP3. I have Sunbird 0.9 installed on two PCs which are not networked together. Is there a way to synchronize the events that are posted in each of the two PCs? As I said, the two PCs are not networked together (one PC at home, the other one at work) but they both have access to the Internet. Ideally, I am looking for an add-on similar to Xmarks which I use to synchronize Firefox's bookmarks between the two computers. Thanks. -- tb

3/6/2010 2:46:28 AM 3 "tb" <nos...@example.com>
[Lightning/SeaMonkey] in news pane - dates & events not showing

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100205 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.3 When I open lightning in the email pane it shows all days & events and works just fine. However, if I have a separate news window open and click lightning in that pane, all I get is a blank calendar (no dates or events are shown). The "Soon" events do show in the news 'Today Pane. Can anyone else verify?

3/3/2010 7:46:23 PM 1 NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid>
Sunbird does not preserve event UIDs over WebDAV

Hello, When using Sunbird 0.9 (and previous versions) to subscribe to a remote calendar over WebDAV, events are sent back to the WebDAV server with changed UIDs after any updates in Sunbird. This looks intentional to me, since the original UIDs are there, but they have an added (random?) number on the end. My reading of RFC 2445, section 4.8.4.7 is that Sunbird's behavior violates that UIDs should be "persistent." Every single update is sent with changed UIDs, so on the server side, the same events are duplicated for each and every update from the Sunbird client. Can someo

3/3/2010 12:19:47 AM 4 Paul Lesniewski <p...@squirrelmail.org>
Is there a way to get the alarm to ring the PC speakers when headphones are in use?

I use Skype a lot, so I always have my headphones plugged into my laptop. Skype has a setting that sends the ring of an incoming phone call to the PC speakers, since you wouldn't be able to hear it if you were away from the computer, and didn't have the headphones on. Does Sunbird have such a setting, so I can hear an alarm when I'm away from the computer, and have the headphones plugged in?

3/1/2010 2:53:08 PM 0 Restorm <st...@resolutionfund.com>
Task (todo) sharing/exchange with Kontact/Korganizer

Good afternoon, Is there any production-stable way to obtain transparent tasks sharing (multi-user sync) with other Lightning AND Kontact clients (with usage or fields restrictions I guess) ? Meaning: all users being connected at the same time, whenever one user creates a new task in one of the calendars, then a couple of minutes later, it appears on the desks of other users who subscribed to this calendar, in read+write mode. I retained the SyncKolab route, since it would permit to keep the data on the IMAP server (no extra server, no extra/public service required). Howe

2/27/2010 5:42:31 PM 0 Xavier Hourcade <public....@xapaho.com>
Lightning tasks and events...

I love lightning, and think it has come on a long way in recent months. I have a number of real frustrations with it... * I really need to link to emails (on my IMAP server) from tasks. It is useful to link to web pages - but, for myself - at least, I really need to refer to information I've been sent by email (and, preferably, be able to easily refer to the history of emails related to the task in a convenient form.) Could this be done with imap://.../ URLs by any chance? * I'd like to be able to associate tasks with address book contacts

2/26/2010 9:58:45 PM 10 Steve <lightening_calendar_...@shic.co.uk>
show birthday from addressbook in calendar

Sorry, in case I´m asking for an existing answer. I´m not to familiar with browsing in newsgroups: How can I see birthdays entered in my address book contacts in the calendar view of lightning? Best regards Theo

2/25/2010 9:24:08 PM 1 Theodor Maier <t.h.e.m....@gmx.de>
lightning overview on desktop

Hi, is there a feature (i've overlooked) or a workaround to have the daily plan (german: Tagesplan) overview with tasks and events from lightning on my desktop (like a gadget or widget or whatelse)? I have seen something similar once with Rainlendar, but I would like to have this with lightning. I also wouldn't mind if this could work without TB running in the background although this wouldn't be a prerequisite, since its always running. Does anyone know of such an interface/hud? Is this at all the right place to pose the question, or would I need a complete distinct a

2/24/2010 2:34:44 PM 0 Armadillo <armadil...@googlemail.com>
Tab Order - Change

No answer in Thunderbird group so maybe it is better off in here (as it is only because of the Calendar being open that I have this issue). Is there anyway to change the order tabs open in Thunderbird? Currently I keep my 'Mail/All Folders' and 'Calendar' tabs open all the time. 'Mail/All Folders' is first tab, calendar is second tab. If I open an email message in a tab, read it and then close it, the focus goes onto the last tab in the list which is the calendar. What I want it to do is always go back to my 'Mail/All Folders' list and not the calendar. Any way to do it? Or mayb

2/21/2010 8:14:13 PM 0 Paul_Jones <Paul_Jo...@news-only.invalid>
Today view

Please make a frame to mark "today" instead of the blue color. It's not intuitive with a color when colors mark selected date, and days outside the month and workweek. Could I possibly change this myself somewhere?

2/21/2010 4:56:00 PM 0 Male Function <malefunct...@hotmail.com>
Lightning incompatible for my system.

When trying to add Lightning 1.0b1 to Thunderbird 3.0, I get the following message: "Lightning" could not be installed because it is not compatible with your Thunderbird build type (Linux_x86_64-gcc3). Please contact the author of this item about the problem. I'm running KDE 4.3.5 on openSUSE 11.2. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy "I wear the cheese. It does not wear me."

2/20/2010 7:37:10 PM 0 Graham P Davis <news...@scarlet-jade.com>
TB 3.0.2 update breaks Lightning 1.0b2pre ?

TB notified me that there is an important update available, 3.0.2 When installing I got a warning that Lightning 1.0b2pre is not compatible and will be disabled. I'm using the nightly version, latest is from Jan 31. I backed out from the TB update, because I do not want to lose any calendar data. When will Lightning 1.0b2pre be updated ? -- Gary Gate

2/19/2010 9:58:35 AM 5 Gary Gate <gary.g...@REMOVEgmail.com.invalid>
Scripted installation of plugins....

Hi, When we use windows sysprep to prepare a disk image prior to mirroring to multiple computers, sysprep strips off the Lightning and some other plugins' functionality from Thunderbird (files are in user profile). Does it exist a way to install and configure plugins from a script once the user logs in for the first time? In our case we want Lightning, Google Calendar sync and Google address book sync installed and also configured with correct google account data from the same script, if possible. Thanks for comments and tips about how to solve this regards jake

2/18/2010 10:33:14 PM 0 Jake <jak...@gmail.com>
Sharing Sunbird On Home Network

Hi, I can't seem to find this info anywhere, I just want to share events entered on one pc in a home network with two more pcs on the same network. I tried accessing the storage.sdb file on the "server" pc but it didn't work-no events showed up. Is there another way?

2/18/2010 1:56:38 AM 0 "Jim" <macbe...@eastlink.ca>
Repairing CALENDAR DATA to previous or DEFAULT STATE

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080906040106050006090406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to know how to reset my profiles calendar data to the state it was in prior to an add-on's installation. I upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and all but 2 of my add-ons were disabled. Lightning in particular updated my calendar profile data. So when I rolled back to Thunderbird 2.x the new calendar data created by Lightning 1.0 causes Lightning 0.9 to be disabled upon restart. I need to know how to reset my profiles c

2/17/2010 11:41:35 PM 0 PaulJC <siredo...@yahoo.com>
Importing tasks into Lightning

I'm using the latest version of Lightning, Seamonkey 2.0. I'm on a WinXP box. I have a long list of tasks in Essential PIM. It exports to .ics format. I'm trying to import these tasks into Lightning. Every time I ask Lightning to import, it does nothing. Under "Events and Tasks" in Seamonkey, I choose import, then click on the .ics file, the disk spins a few seconds, and then it just stops. Is there something else I should be doing? Thanks.

2/17/2010 5:33:26 AM 0 Jeffrey Needle <jeff.nee...@gmail.com>
Lightning 0.9/1.0b1 and Thunderbird calendar data

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030402090803060700090508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, My name is Paul and I have been using Thunderbird since 0.x. I have been using version 2.x for the longest time possible, with no issues. I have attempted to "upgrade" to 3.0 and found that, as usual with mozilla software, it broke 98% of my add-ons. So I went back to 2.0. I was able to recover all but one add-on: yours. Lightning 1.0b1 during it's install "updated" my profile calendar data without giving me the

2/17/2010 3:14:05 AM 0 OS/2 Guy <os2...@os2guy.net>
Unable to creat new events

Hello, when I try to create a new event (as well with right-click, as over the menu bar, as with CTRL-I), nothing happens. If I make a new task, the dialogue opens, but not with an event! I use Thunderbird 3.0.1 and Lightning 1.0b2pre . Any idea, how to solve this problem? Regards, Michael

2/17/2010 12:24:54 AM 0 Michael <albertzweist...@haefft.de>
importing and using lightening for TB

I'm new to TB and therefore also new to calendar. I've installed it to my TB3 but is there somewhere where I can read about how to use it? For instance to get these weekly views I see on its website? Also, I've used ReminderFox till now (under Firefox). Is there a way to transfer the data I have under ReminderFox to Lightning? Does Lightning have an import function? Jeff

2/15/2010 6:26:15 AM 0 "J...@couldbeinvalid.com" <J...@couldbeinvalid.com>
Calendar data file

Using Ligntning1.0b1 w/TB 3.0.1. Want to copy calendar data file to second computer w/same versions. Do I copy the storage.sdb file or another data file from one PC to another?

2/11/2010 7:33:19 PM 0 Kenn Kosnikowski <kenn...@verizon.net>
Recurring tasks

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <style type="text/css"> body { font: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } p { font: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } ..standout { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: #993333; line-height: 13px; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 10px; } ..code { border-top: 1px solid #ddd; border-left: 1px solid #ddd; border-right: 2px solid #000; border-bottom: 2px soli

2/7/2010 6:29:40 PM 0 Andrew DeFaria <And...@DeFaria.com>
Attach file to task or event

How do you attach a local file to a task or event in Lightning?

2/7/2010 5:57:07 PM 4 Keith Nuttle <keith_nut...@sbcglobal.net>
Synchronize between two computers in Home network.

I have a desktop and a laptop with TB3.0 and Lightning 1.0b.1. Both computers are running Windows XP SP3. Is there some way that I can synchronize the address books and calendars on the two computers with out using and online calendar. It would be nice to click and icon and have the same information on both computers.

2/6/2010 2:56:19 AM 0 Keith Nuttle <keith_nut...@sbcglobal.net>
Tasks Suggestion

Not sure if this is the right place to offer suggestions for Lightning, but here goes. Am currently using Thunderbird 3.0.1 and Lightning 1.0b1. They work very nicely and I like the new functionality a lot. I use Tasks frequently. I have several projects, each of which have various tasks. I use the Category field to identify the projects and associate each task with a project [category]. What I haven't been able to discover is how to selectively view Categories in the the Tasks pane and then to be able to print out that list. I thought the filter function might accompl

2/5/2010 5:21:51 PM 0 Bill Cole <wac1...@gmail.com>
Export to ics fails

I have one user that is unable to export his calendar from thunderbird/lightning to a .ics file. The calendar appears just fine but going through the export process results in a zero byte file. This is on a Fedora 12 system with thunderbird 3.0.1-1 x86_64 and thunderbird-lightning 1.0-0.18.20090916hg x86_64. Other accounts and systems with the same versions installed export to .ics just fine. I've launched thunderbird from a shell and see no errors generated to the console. Could there be something in this user's calendar that is causing the export to fail? If so how do

2/4/2010 5:32:46 PM 0 "Stephen Berg (Contractor)" <stephen.berg....@nrlssc.navy.mil>
Sunbird: an error occurred when writing to the calendar

Hello, I had a calendar that was reading a .ics file made by a phpicalendar on a server. I cloned the phpicalendar (from thingOne to thingTwo). I then added the new calendar (thingTwo) to my Sunbird calanders but when I go to add an event I get "an error occurred when writing to the calendar thingTwo!". Does anyone know why? I am stil able to edit thingOne though.

2/4/2010 12:58:59 AM 0 Nobody Nobody <randomnospamem...@gmail.com>
Calendar in background

Is there a way to have Lightning alerts appear when Thunderbird is closed? I need alerts that popup similar to the old Microsoft Works Calendar. -- Roy

1/31/2010 8:45:58 PM 0 Roy <rdwe...@swbell.net>
Conflict message in calendar

Hi, Is there a way to pop up a message/ show an alert if there a conflict in the calendar? Thanks, Suneet

1/31/2010 6:18:43 PM 0 "Suneet" <freetvirv...@gmail.com>
unable to load non UTF-8 .ics from website

I can not use the Calender from http://www.serienjunkies.de/docs/serienplaner.ics because ist is not utf-8. Is there any solution? The error Console says: Warnung: Fehler beim Lesen von Daten f�r Kalender: Serienplaner. Er wurde daher in den schreibgesch�tzten Modus gesetzt, da �nderungen in diesem Kalender wahrscheinlich Datenverlust verursachen. Sie k�nnen diese Einstellung �ndern, indem Sie 'Kalender bearbeiten' w�hlen. Fehlercode: CAL_UTF8_DECODING_FAILED. Beschreibung: Ein Fehler ist beim Dekodieren einer iCalendar(ics)-Datei als UTF-8 aufgetreten. �berpr�fen Sie, dass die Dat

1/28/2010 1:32:18 PM 0 Stefan Blochberger <StefanBlochber...@gmx.de>
Subscribing to Calendar on FTP

I recently upgraded to 3.0.1 and the new lightning. I had previously attempted to maintain one calendar on 3 computers using a set of upload/download batch files...it didn't work for me, always forgot a step. Looking at the FAQ: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:FAQ#How_do_I_save_my_calendar_file_on_an_FTP_server.3F I was able to save my calendar from my home desktop to the ftp server. I don't however, know how to get the other computers to access this same calendar file. How do I subscribe to an existing calendar on an FTP server? Thanks, Jason

1/26/2010 3:55:59 PM 0 Jason Myers <mye...@clemson.edu>
Suggestion for lightning in Thunderbird

I would like to suggest an option of intergrating Lightning into Thunderbird as a seperate "tab" instead of the window being located on the side of the screen or having to hiding the window. As for the Persona function, I have applied it and works well. The only problem I encounter when selecting one is the "wear it" button is not appearing? Regards

1/26/2010 12:43:14 AM 0 Geoff B <gjb...@iprimus.com.au>
FG Printers has to be printed twice?

I'm using FG Printers with the Thunderbird Lightning add on and the Google Calendar add on. It seems that I have to print twice to get the printing to work. The first time I print there are no errors or anything but it doesn't print and the printer status monitor never activates. The second time, the print status monitor pops up and it prints fine. Any ideas? Thanks !

1/24/2010 6:15:29 PM 0 Blair Mahaffy <blairmaha...@mts.net>
event time display

Folks, I am running Ubuntu 9.10, Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 and Lightning .9 . I would like the time displayed in 24hr format in the events. While I have the system set for 24hr time and the time picker displays 24 hr. time the event display is 12hr. time. Is there a way to config. this properly? thanks, wil

1/22/2010 7:45:11 PM 0 Wil Willis <thewil...@comcast.net>
Lightning 1.0b2 Nightly Builds Issues

I sure wish I'd taken notes on this, but alas.... I've been using the 1.0b2 nightly builds (updating daily) since I upgraded to TB3.0 on Windows a few days after its release. All was fine, until a few builds ago. My default view is the monthly view, and now when I increment or decrement the month, only the bar containing the name of the month and CW week is changed. The calendar itself still shows the current month. When I delete an event, it still shows in the view. Doing a refresh or closing the calendar tab and opening a new one has no effect. I must exit Thunderbir

1/18/2010 6:10:08 PM 4 Margaret <twokat...@gmailx.invalid>
Lightning affecting Thunderbird 3's ability to interpret digitally signed emails?

After upgrading to Thunderbird 3 and Lightning 1.0 beta 1, my digitally signed emails are not appearing as being digitally signed in Thunderbird (via either the little envelope icon in the header, or via the View > Message Security Info menu item). If I disable Lightning in the add-ons window and restart, the digital signatures appear properly. Re-enabling Lightning causes the digital signatures to disappear. Is this a known issue or is it something strange that I'm experiencing alone?

1/17/2010 6:13:16 PM 0 Ashley Ee <ee.ash...@gmail.com>
Lightning: All calendars gone after killing TBird

Hi, I am very unhappy to note that after today I killed a running instance of TBird 3.0 with Lightning 1.0b1, all calendars are simply gone. I have never seen anything like this before and I wonder if there is any wy to salvage the data. There is no up-to-date backup, therefore it would be quite a loss. There still is a file "storage.db" of 117 kb which I thought would hold the data. Is there any know method of data recovery for lightning 1.0? Thanks, Johannes

1/16/2010 3:04:05 PM 0 Johannes Rohr <jor...@gmail.com>
importing ics calendars into Lightning

I am using Sm 2.0.2 and Lightning 1.0b2pre and it works OK with a calendar I made for personal events. I wished to install aics file by importing it into Lightning but nothing happens. I wished to have a calendar of Nebraska Husker sport event dates and one of National holidays. Could someone give me some guidance? Thanks -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else.

1/14/2010 6:45:37 PM 0 JAS <jaskin...@bbc.net>
New Mozillazine KB page: "Migrating from Sunbird to Lightning"

A new Mozillazine KB article has been written up: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Migrating_from_Sunbird_to_Lightning . As with all Wikimedia sites, "reckless editing" (but not vandalizing) is welcome. Best regards, Tony. -- hundred-and-one symptoms of being an internet addict: 241. You try to look for Net Search even when you're in File Manager.

1/14/2010 2:16:39 PM 0 Tony Mechelynck <antoine.mechely...@gmail.com>
Lightning won't install

The latest built of lightning won't install on some computers. Updating from previous versions seems to work fine, clean installation simply fails with error Error: document.getElementById(id) is null Source File: chrome://mozapps/content/extensions/extensions.xml Line: 417 It's a active directory environment with application folders redirected to network file share.

1/13/2010 7:36:51 PM 0 Marcin <marcin.o...@gmail.com>
Lightning 1.0b1 - Problems conversion from nightly build

Hi I have immediately after availability TRIED to install the new release version. Especially since it includes the various international languagues. However, using the 'Lightning Nightly Updater', I had already installed the 1.0b2pre build. Somehow, I was not able to update to the 1.0b1 release version. De-activating the updater did not help. Uninstalling 1.0b2pre did not help neither. I tried both, installing straight through the Add-On manager, as well as downloading the extension an performing a 'local' installation. Also went into the Profile and checked extension. Th

1/13/2010 1:43:21 PM 0 Rolf Gloor <thunderb...@glr.ch>
update for SM 2.0.2

Will there be an update for Lightning for the new updated SM 2.0.2? -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else.

1/11/2010 5:30:16 PM 2 JAS <jaskin...@bbc.net>
Power glitch, now calendar data is all gone

I have been using Thunderbird calendar for about three months. After restarting after a really brief poser glitch, nothing shows up in my calendar now. How to handle? king

1/11/2010 2:14:56 PM 0 king <u...@domain.invalid>
Main password

When i start TB, it asks me to type main password two times into two different dialog boxes that appears in a second. The dialog box used by Lightning appears fist, then appears the TB main windows (that covers the first dialog box) and then the dialog box that requires the main password for the TB mail accounts. If i enter the main password in the second dialog box, TB checks mails and begin its normal operations. Lightning waits until i enter the main password another time in the firse appeared dialog box. Is there a way to let TB to ask for the main password only one time?

1/9/2010 6:58:04 PM 1 dblzed <...@hatespam.com>
Microsoft Exchange Calendar add-in for thunderbird lightning available

A while back I wrote a plugin for thunderbird & lightning to access Microsoft Exchange calendar. I don't know whether someone else's written one already, but here it is in case you find it useful: http://darkircop.org/xdata/

1/6/2010 9:29:38 PM 0 Andrea Bittau <bit...@gmail.com>
reminders not working on new profile & import

I had to recreate my profile recently, but cannot figure out how to get the ReminderFox reminders to start popping up again. I've gone through all the menu configuration windows with no results or evident cause for failure. I did have to separately repoint the mail folders after the new profile, but the same technique doesn't seem to give similar results. The reminders WERE popping up with the new profile, but after I restored the mail folders, the reminder popups ceased. All of my calendar dates and reminder settings for each event appear to be intact otherwise. Would like v

1/5/2010 8:01:15 AM 0 "Gary" <gary.helfe...@usa.net>
Lightning doesn't restart in current day/month

Hi If I have Lightning opened in a tab and working in a future month when I restart Thunderbird the calendar does not revert to the current month (set to view month) but stays in the future month previously being worked on. However, if I close the Lightning tab, then restart Thunderbird and open Lightning the current month is correctly displayed. Is this operating as per design? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0 Brian

1/4/2010 4:17:26 PM 0 brian <br1....@sky.com>
Task pane

Greetings, I am hoping that someone out there can assist me... I have the event/task pane displayed while in Mail mode. The tasks being displayed are ALL tasks, even ones for a future date. Is there any setting that allows only current day tasks to show in the task pane? I don't really want to see the tasks that are coming up months down the road...just to have it tell me what I need to do today. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

1/1/2010 11:09:52 PM 0 Rynni <kary...@sammyfamily.com>
reminder randomly timed?

I'd like to; Schedule a recurring reminder that is set to go /sometime/ between the hours, say of 8am & 8pm. In other words, a somewhat randomly timed reminder. Is this possible in Lightning? tia, -Craig

12/30/2009 8:23:57 PM 0 Craig <netburg...@REMOVEgmail.com>
Tasks

Are there instructions somewhere that describe how to use the "Task" function? I find it baffling, illogical, and nearly incomprehensible.

12/30/2009 1:32:25 PM 14 Bill Starrett <b...@starrett.us>
FG Printers Category Colours

Anyone use the FG Printers plugin? I find it great to keep organized but the colours assigned to the categories only print intermittently. Prints nicely early on and then it seems that as you get further through the month or day, they stop printing.

12/20/2009 7:21:34 PM 4 Blair Mahaffy <blairmaha...@mts.net>
Lightning 1.0beta1 release candidate is available

Hey guys, after all the trouble that we went through to prepare the Lightning and Sunbird builds for 1.0 beta1 (see Philipp's posts[1][2], we have finally succeeded (at least on the Lightning front). Candidate builds for Lightning 1.0 beta1 in 37 languages are available as of now for: * Windows[3] * Linux (32bit)[4] * Mac OS X[5] A corresponding build of the Google Calendar Provider is also available at those locations. To install these builds in Thunderbird 3, please follow these steps: 1. Download the build for your operating system to a folder on your

12/20/2009 3:02:08 PM 10 Simon Paquet <si...@gmx.de>
GTD Methodology

Does anyone know of a good way to implement a "Getting Things Done" (David Allen) methodology using mozilla calendar tasks? I need to classify a task in three ways: a status (of "next action", "delegated", "someday", etc.), a context (of "work", "home", etc.), and a project. I *could* use the "category" field to handle one of those three. I suppose I *could* use different calendars to simulate a second of the three... maybe have a "work" calendar and a "home" calendar to handle contexts. So far, the best interface for task management that I have found so far is the "Pocket

12/19/2009 3:09:19 PM 1 Jason 'Bug' Fenter <fenter...@gmail.com>
Toodledo Integration

Does anyone know of any plans for integrating or interfacing with Toodledo (www.toodledo.com) for task management?

12/19/2009 2:53:50 PM 1 Jason 'Bug' Fenter <fenter...@gmail.com>
caldav calendar is empty - unable to add new either

mac os x.6.2 tb 3.0 (non-beta) dec17th build of lightning i added a google caldav no problem then i attempted to add a kerio mailserver caldav (works fine in ical)... after several hours of ts to try to figure out how to get lightning to trust our internal mailserver certificate (thanks to the person in bugzilla that posted his steps to force the cert to be trusted)... i finally got the caldav added to the point where it asked for un and pw... yay -- i was ecstatic fast forward a few hours -- there are quite a few events in the calendar so i thought i would just let it run

12/18/2009 2:35:07 AM 0 ciara belle <ciaraswe...@gmail.com>
Can edit and delete calendar events in Thunderbird, but can't post new ones that sync

I tried searching for an answer to this one, but didn't find it. So...grateful if anyone can figure this out: I have Lightning set up to sync my Google calendar with Thunderbird 2.0. I have both the Lightning and bidirectional add-ons installed. Thunderbird pulls up the calendar from Google just fine. 1) THE GOOD: If I edit or delete an event created in Google Calendar in Thunderbird, the information syncs just fine. 2) THE BAD: If I create a new event in Thunderbird/Lightning, the new event DOES NOT sync with Google calender. I can't figure this one out. Any ideas would be mu

12/17/2009 1:01:14 AM 0 Jay Katz - Colorado Grants <coloradogra...@gmail.com>
Set number of repeated event reminders in Lightning?

Hi, (Lightning with Thunderbird 2.0.023) Is it possible to set either the number or the date range of a repeated event? If so, is it possible to do this by editing the original entry? For example, if I have class that meets once a week for 10 weeks, can I set the reminder to stop after 10 weeks or only work on those 10 dates? I want to keep the record of when I attended classes, but don't want to the entry active after the 10 weeks. The only options I can find are the 1) delete all occurrences of the event or 2) delete each continuing instance after the 10 weeks. Th

12/15/2009 6:36:02 PM 2 Orrie <EB3...@yahoo.com>
CalDav & Google Calendar

Using TB3.0 and Lightning 1.0b2pre (12/13/2009) on Windows XP SP3: I was using the "Provider for Google Calendar" extension, and it was working fine with both my own calendar and another calendar for which I have full read permissions. But ... I decided to try CalDav and hopefully do away with the extension. CalDav works fine for viewing both my own and the other calendar. But ... I am unable to write to the Google Calendar from Lightning. That is, I can create an event on my Google calendar via Firefox, and it appears in my Google Calendar (linked via CalDav) in Lightni

12/15/2009 2:59:00 AM 2 Margaret <twokat...@gmailx.invalid>
calendar is read-only

Trying to create a icalendar in our calendar server. Reading through https://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:FAQ, I created and published burp as http://cal.internal.domain.com/burp.ics from Thunderbird/ Lightning. Then I went to the directory the other .ics files are defined in the server and burp seemed to have been created -rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 9.7K Dec 4 17:30 accounts.ics -rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 118 Dec 9 09:45 burp.ics -rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 98K Dec 7 11:19 demos.ics But, when someone else subscribes to it, they cannot edit burp. I do know (I even checked a

12/14/2009 2:47:11 PM 2 Mauricio <raubvo...@gmail.com>
Howto for google calendar and Lightning 1.0pre ??

Hi, I use extensively seamonkey (2.0.x), with lightning 1.0pre, and I get issues with Googlecalendar. Is there a how to somewhere to help configuring lightning ? (I think I am OK on the google side). Last point: what is the protocol used ? (I "think" it is HTTPS, as I need to configure my proxy setting accordingly. Thanks !! Dominique

12/13/2009 8:35:45 PM 2 dominique <doume...@netscape.net>
Changing alarm time by hand doesn't work

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040807060802030101040109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is on a task. If I change the alarm time by hand, by clicking in the time box and typing a new time, it does not update when I click on the Save and Close icon. If, however, I change the time using the time picker the update happens. TB 3.0/Lightning 1.0pre (64-bit) -- Andrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a

12/13/2009 5:31:15 PM 1 Andrew DeFaria <And...@DeFaria.com>
Lightning 1.0pre and TB3 will not work

Hello, I have the follow problem, I can't add new taks or new events. But my old one are all available. When I click file->new->task or event, nothing happens. Because of this I have open an bugzilla ticket #532874, but until now no really feedback from the developers came. Have someone the same problem an an solution? Thanks

12/13/2009 8:54:47 AM 2 =?UTF-8?B?RnJhbmsgQsO8dHRuZXI=?= <frank-buett...@gmx.net>
Thunderbird 3 - Lightning Calendars

I just upgraded to Thunderbird 3 it informed me that Lightning 0.9 was not compatible with Thunderbird 3.0 so I installed the latest nightly for Lightning. When Lightning first came up it showed the remote calendars I installed in Lighting 0.9. When I restarted Thunderbird, my remote calendars were gone. Not a big deal I can easily install them again. I just though I'd pass this along. -- Rob

12/13/2009 4:16:37 AM 0 rob <rnotsteinm...@bellsouth.net>
Lightning: Calendar. Tasks. What about Notes/Memos?

I would love to replace my Outlook with Thunderbird/Lightning. However, having such a tremendous amount of information in contacts, calendar, tasks as well as in the notes/memos, it is important to me to not loose those informations. While Thunderbird includes the contacts, Lightning adds almost the rest. There is one part missing. The notes / memos. Is it in Lightning and I have just not found it? If not, what are the plans. I really would love to switch to TB+L. Thanks for your feedback. Greetings from Switzerland, Rolf

12/12/2009 8:45:25 PM 25 Rolf Gloor <thunderb...@glr.ch>
Provider for Google Calendar 0.5.5, TBird 3 and Lightning 1.0b2pre

Has anyone managed to get Provider for Google Calendar to work? The add-in says it needs additional items but doesn't say WHAT "additional items" it needs....

12/11/2009 11:21:39 AM 9 Gordon <gbpli...@gmail.com>
Development ideas

Event title-field could support HTML-code. I have synced google calendar to Lightning and I'm usually using HTML in event title (in google). That's handy way show to people maps and so on... Anyway, now Lightning shows that HTML-code in event title and it's quite disturbing. Support for Nokia syncronization would also be great. I'm using TB3 and Lightning 1.0b2pre in Vista 32-bit and works fine!

12/11/2009 11:06:00 AM 1 =?iso-8859-1?B?UmlrdSBI5G3kbORpbmVu?= <rikuhamalai...@gmail.com>
Auto import *.cvs

Hello, I am using Thunderbird 3 with lightning. I would like to auto-import a cvs file (by a cron task, or another way). How can I do this ? Thanks !!

12/10/2009 7:38:28 AM 4 Animatrix <animatri...@gmail.com>
moz-profile-calendar:// preparation error

Greetings All, I've been running Thunderbird 3.0 since beta 1 and for some weeks now have been receiving errors whenever I start Thunderbird. I've tried uninstalling and re-installing the various calendar related add-ons including lightning and the google calendars provider, but I still receive the same damned error. <quote> An error was encountered preparing the calendar located at moz-profile- calendar:// for use. It will not be available. Error Code: 0x80004005 Description: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [moz

12/9/2009 8:08:05 PM 12 Anubeon <anub...@gmail.com>
Tasks not displayed properly

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050803050304000100060109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been using Tasks a lot lately. Often, when I go to the Tasks tab of TB3.0 (Lightning 1.0pre) I see a shortened list of my tasks. Clicking on any of the tasks causes the other, previously not displayed tasks to appear. Also, I've configured TB to not show a tab if there is only one tab. In order to get to the Tasks tab I need to do Shift-Ctl-d. When I do this I see no tasks at all. Reloading remote ca

12/9/2009 7:04:26 PM 0 Andrew DeFaria <And...@DeFaria.com>
integration w TB 3

Hi Fresh TB 3 install + lightning nightly build : creating a new event with a simple drag'n drop of a mail (from the mail list pane) into the lightning icon (or the event pane) is no longer supported (that was possible and damn useful with TB previous release)

12/9/2009 5:41:30 PM 1 leon <leon.f...@free.fr>
Sharepoint

I'm sure this has been addressed before but I coudln't find an answer, apologies if it's a dupe. I'm unclear on how to link to a Sharepoint calender. In my case I'm interested in Lightning, but I suspect that makes little difference. Could anyone offer some guidance?

12/9/2009 5:30:48 PM 4 Ian Appleby <ian.appl...@bcs.org>
Lightning 1.0 build for the Thunderbird 3.0 for Solaris 10?

I realize Sun would need to provide some hardware to compile it, but if anyone has any pull with Sun and could get them to put out a copy of Lightning 1.0 for Solaris 10 now that Thunderbird 3 has gone gold, that would be awesome! :)

12/9/2009 4:48:54 PM 3 SLO Chewie <sloche...@gmail.com>
TB 3.0 is out but doesn't work with new lightning

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080702050102020108010304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So TB 3.0 came out and I updated it. Decided to check to make sure my Lightning was up to date. I have the Lightning Nightly Updater (Unofficial) 0.9.090618 and it says: Lightning: The 08-Dec-2009 05:39 PST build is out! You are currently using the 15-Oct-2009 (04) build. So I click on Install. It wants to restart TB, OK. TB comes back up and Lightning is gone! I go to the Add-ons and it says t

12/9/2009 12:29:44 AM 5 Andrew DeFaria <And...@DeFaria.com>
Why does Lightning write to calendar when I hit "dismiss"?

One of the latest nightlys introduced a problem, I guess. I'm using a CalDAV calendar on Zimbra. A meeting reminder pops up and I hit "dismiss". Lightning then reports an error because it apparently can't write to the calendar. It says: "An error occured when writing to the calendar xxx! Error code: MODIFICATIION_FAILED". Why would Lightning need to modify the calendar? Regards, Marcel -- Marcel St�r, http://www.frightanic.com Couchsurfing: http://www.couchsurfing.com/people/marcelstoer Skype: marcelstoer -> I kill Google Groups posts: http://improve-usenet.org

12/8/2009 2:40:33 PM 4 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Marcel_St=F6r?= <mar...@frightanic.com>
Scheduled Publish

Hi All, Just wondering if there is a feature either existing or planned to have scheduled exporting of local calendars. The benefit I can see is being able, in my example, to export a local calendar to HTML or ICS on a web server or other location to be accessible by people with that URL. Tips/Thoughts? Sorry if this has been already covered, a very quick search of the newsgroup did not reveal much. Thanks!

12/7/2009 10:40:20 PM 3 Shane Arnold <clontar...@iinet.net.au>
Display Problems in Week View

TB 2.0.0.23 Lightning 0.9 XP, SP3 Related add-ons: FG Printers 0.4.8 Recently, certain appointments fail to show the content of the event. I think that most are recent additions. The time is blocked, but the Time, Location, Date, Reminder, etc. do not show. Day, multiweek, and month all display properly. Disabling FG Printers has no effect. Close and reload corrects display problem, but then recurs. (I cannot figure out what the catalytic event is.) Bill B

12/7/2009 10:14:06 PM 2 Bill Braun <...@privacy.net>
Cannot add attachment

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050202040700000408040203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do meetup.com meetings. One thing nice about them is that they can easily export to other calendaring system. They can, for example, export to my Google calendar. Then my TB Lightning can pick them up. However they put a URL to the event on meetup.com in the description field. This is inconvenient. I'd like it to instead be an attachment to the event so that I could easily double click it and open the U

12/7/2009 8:45:29 PM 0 Andrew DeFaria <And...@DeFaria.com>
Lightning with Zimbra

I have successfully configured lightning to work with Zimbra. I can view the calendar without a problem. The only issue I have is that I cannot create new events or confirm any meting requests. When I do so, I get the following error: "An error occurred when writing to the calendar Zimbra" When I click on the Details button, I get: "MODIFICATION_FAILED" I am using the latest stable Thunderbird for Linux, Lightning 0.9 and Zimbra 5.13 When I use Gnome Evolution, I have no issues at all. Thanks, Jim

12/6/2009 5:35:20 PM 4 James Lin <ja...@cox.net>
keeping calendar online jj

Hello Is there a way to have Sunbird or Lightning on my web site so I can access it from any computer? I do not want to display it on my site, just have it there so I can access and modify it. TIA JJ

12/4/2009 5:55:56 AM 1 JJ <t...@that.com>
Lightning Printing Oddity.

After first having trouble getting printing to work I found a couple of oddities in printing from Lightning under SeaMonkey.2.0 First the "Page Set Up" is grayed out when a Lightning Tab is selected. At least some of the page preferences are still active and needed. For example "Print Background Colors and Images", needs to be on to print colored calendars. Landscape could be useful. Print Preview is also grayed out. It could also be useful. Finally the Monthly Grid does not print Category Colors. -- Rob

12/3/2009 11:03:54 PM 8 Rob Steinmetz <rnotsteinm...@bellsouth.net>
Selecting SMTP to use for Lightning

Hello, Im using Thunderbird v2.0.0.23 with Lightning v0.9 on a Win XP machine. I have 2 email accounts being used and I would like to be able to send out event invitations from either account. Is there any way to specify which SMTP server or email account should be used when sending out an event invitation? Even if its in some config file, as long as it can be done somehow, Ill be happy. Thanks, Steve

12/3/2009 7:24:31 PM 0 SteveG <ste...@enterpriseair.com>
Seamonkey 2.0 Lightning Printing not working

I have Seamonkey 2.0 and Lightning pre1 installed on windows XP. I just discovered that my setup does not print calendars. The Print Menu is displayed properly, There is no "preview' and pushing the print button does nothing. Everything else in Lightning seems to work and everything else in Seamonkey seems to print. I'm trying to see if anyone can confirm this or confirm that printing does work -- Rob

12/3/2009 4:29:49 PM 5 Rob Steinmetz <rnotsteinm...@bellsouth.net>
Zarafa CalDAV

Hi, is anyone using Lightning with a Zarafa server via CalDAV and may share his experiences? Thanks! M.

12/3/2009 1:14:43 PM 0 "M." <m.paterm...@gmail.com>
Holidays

Is there an add-on that adds U.S. Holidays to Sunbird or Lightning? Thank you, Bob

11/26/2009 11:25:42 PM 7 k2nnj <k2...@yahoo.com>
Subcategories

Using Sunbird i need to create subcategories. It's not possible so i created many calendars named with my categories and i would like to attribute to categories my subcategorie. Here i get a problem, because when i do that, all other calendar's categories menu changed. There is any add or something i wrong to do it? Thanks

11/26/2009 12:29:30 PM 0 Patricio <freereservat...@gmail.com>
Subcategories

Using Sunbird i need to create subcategories. It's not possible so i created many menu with my categories and i would like to attribute to categories my subcategorie. Here i get a problem, because when i do that, all other calendar's categories menu changed. There is any add or something i wrong to do it? Thanks

11/26/2009 12:27:17 PM 0 Patricio <freereservat...@gmail.com>
When updating my events with a new category, and save to google calendar, the category is gone

However I am able to create one and save with category, then it works. And SOMETIMES, when I update it with category, it works as well. But SOMETIMES not. Here is an example, where the category is there: Parsing entry: <entry xmlns:openSearch="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/" xmlns:gCal="http://schemas.google.com/gCal/2005" xmlns:gd="http:// schemas.google.com/g/2005" xmlns:gml="http://www.opengis.net/gml" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/ 2005/Atom"> <id>http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/frankmichaelkraft %40gmail.com/private/

11/25/2009 7:38:35 AM 0 Frank Michael <frank.michael.kr...@gmx.de>
GCal provider: Password forgotten

Yesterday, Google calendar provider forgot my stored password. The password did not change / was not wrong. Just the connection was unstable. The password should not be forgotten just because a connection cannot be made ...

11/22/2009 11:23:54 AM 0 =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jens_M=FCller?= <b...@tessarakt.de>
Can't set task priority unless I open the item

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <style type="text/css"> body { font: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } p { font: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } ..standout { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: #993333; line-height: 13px; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 10px; } ..code { border-top: 1px solid #ddd; border-left: 1px solid #ddd; border-right: 2px solid #000; border-bottom: 2px soli

11/20/2009 10:21:45 PM 0 Andrew DeFaria <And...@DeFaria.com>
Save info if you fail to post to the calendar

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <style type="text/css"> body { font: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } p { font: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } ..standout { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: #993333; line-height: 13px; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 10px; } ..code { border-top: 1px solid #ddd; border-left: 1px solid #ddd; border-right: 2px solid #000; border-bottom: 2px soli

11/19/2009 9:26:10 PM 0 Andrew DeFaria <And...@DeFaria.com>
Convert to

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <style type="text/css"> body { font: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } p { font: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } ..standout { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: #993333; line-height: 13px; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 10px; } ..code { border-top: 1px solid #ddd; border-left: 1px solid #ddd; border-right: 2px solid #000; border-bottom: 2px soli

11/19/2009 5:52:01 PM 1 Andrew DeFaria <And...@DeFaria.com>
Appointment alarms happening too fast

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <style type="text/css"> body { font: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } p { font: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } ..standout { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: #993333; line-height: 13px; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 10px; } ..code { border-top: 1px solid #ddd; border-left: 1px solid #ddd; border-right: 2px solid #000; border-bottom: 2px soli

11/17/2009 5:31:08 PM 7 Andrew DeFaria <And...@DeFaria.com>
Some lingering problems in Lightning 1.0pre with Google CalDAV

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <style type="text/css"> body { font: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } p { font: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; } ..standout { font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: #993333; line-height: 13px; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 10px; } ..code { border-top: 1px solid #ddd; border-left: 1px solid #ddd; border-right: 2px solid #000; border-bottom: 2px soli

11/16/2009 5:17:06 PM 0 Andrew DeFaria <And...@DeFaria.com>
View buttons not working

I am running Ubuntu 9.10 with Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 and lightning 0.9. I believe I installed Thunderbird separately (not through Synaptic or apt-get), but I am not positive. I just installed Provider so I can sync my calendar with Google Calendar but the option File -> New -> Calendar is grayed out. Then I noticed that, while in calendar view, if I click on the "Today," "Day," "Week," "Multiweek," or "Month" buttons, nothing happens (my view does not change). My "New Event" and "New Task" buttons are grayed out as well. If I click on say, the "Month" view under the "View" menu, it

11/14/2009 12:39:10 PM 1 TennSeven <elli...@gmail.com>
Is Lightning known to auto-accept invitations?

From time to time I get an invitation email (for an event) and Lightning does not allow me to accept or reject the invitation because it displays "This message contains an event that has already been added to your calendar." No, this is not because I hit the accept-button before. It displays this message right after the email arrives. Is Lightning known to auto-accept invitations? My calendar is a CalDAV->Zimbra configuration. When I check the event in question in the Zimbra web client I see that it was added to my calendar but I've yet to accept it. Any ideas? -- M

11/14/2009 9:21:54 AM 1 =?UTF-8?B?TWFyY2VsIFN0w7Zy?= <mar...@frightanic.com>
Timezones in latest nightly and TB RC1 build 1

Hi, I use Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091112 Lightning/1.0pre Thunderbird/3.0 (with 20091112 Lightning builds). In Tools > Preferences > Lightning > Timezone, the drop-down list is empty. What is the problem here? Thanks, Jens

11/13/2009 2:48:20 PM 4 =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jens_M=FCller?= <b...@tessarakt.de>
Show - incomplete tasks should click twice to work

Happen to check the incomplete tasks and there is none! But click the button again it shows. Reproducible. -- Regards, LU Wei PGP key ID: 0x92CCE1EA

11/13/2009 12:29:37 PM 1 LU Wei <luweit...@address.invalid>
Events & Tasks Sometimes Not Displaying

I'm using Lightning v0.9 (b2008091719) w/ Portable TB 2.0.0.23. Tasks and events do not always display. They aren't lost though. When I sync with Google the events aren't deleted from the Google copy and when I move to a different computer or immediately after a reboot they do tend to show. As an example, today I deleted a single instance from a repeating event. After that all instances of the event disappeared. They still display on the Google calendar, but restarting Thunderbird does not make them appear. There are no error messages in the error console related to the Lightning

11/12/2009 7:26:47 PM 4 Jeremiah Engelman <jeremiah.p.engel...@gmail.com>

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