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Browser crashes seamonkey whenever invoked since version 2.0

I've updated from 2.0 to v. 2.03 and still the browser immediately blows up the whole program every time it is invoked. The browser window tries to open and before anything fills into the all white browser window, seamonkey dies and goes to an error reporting message box. I've asked for help with this in the box and so far zero response. The problem started after a browser crash. I suspect that there is a page that was in this very last crashed session that is causing the endlessly ongoing crash, How can I clear the last session out of the way without losing all my emails a

3/11/2010 5:35:47 AM 0 Steven Holt <...@stockpix.com>



Problems after upgrading SeaMonkey from v1.18 to v2.03

I just did this upgrade. It seemed to run OK and all the email and bookmarks from my old profile appear to have been successfully imported. But there are a couple of issues: 1. Every time I start SeaMonkey v2.03, it asks for the master password for the software security device. This is in spite of the fact that in preferences->privacy & security->master passwords I have checked the selection "SeaMonkey will ask for your master password the first time it is needed". Surprisingly, if I click "cancel" on the password dialog box without entering the password, SeaMonkey starts norm

3/11/2010 12:39:56 AM 1 John <no...@nospam.org>
Error in SM v2.0.3 in this web page?

Hello. Is anyone else getting "You do not have the roles required to access this portlet." error at http://www.needforspeed.com/web/world/news/-/nfsblogs/1273547 URL? My 64 bit Dell OEM W7 HP's IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :) -- Phillip Pi Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst Partner Engineering/Internet Service Provider/Symantec Online Services, Consumer Business Unit Symantec Corporation www.symantec.com ----------------------------------------------------- Email: phillip_pi@symantec.comSYMC (remove SYMC to reply by e-mail) -------------------------

3/10/2010 8:30:10 PM 6 Phillip Pi <phillip...@symantec.comSYMC>
Unicode fonts

Ran into a curious issue today... it's not really a problem, at least not for me, but still curious. Let me establish the parameters first. I'm running XP SP3 with the "extra" fonts (Far Eastern and right-to-left) installed, so it should have a pretty good Unicode font coverage. Not only that, but I have the Code2000 font installed also, which should plug most holes Microsoft left in their coverage. I have the following browsers available: - Seamonkey 2.0.3 (primary browser) - IE 8 (fully patched) - Firefox 3.6 - Opera 10.5 - SRWare Iron 4.0.280 (equivalent to Google Chrome 4)

3/10/2010 4:32:53 PM 1 MCBastos <mcbli...@gmail.com>
Mail Toolbar Printer Icon Missing

How do I make an printer ICON appear on my Mail Toolbar? SeaMonkey 2.0.3 Frog

3/9/2010 7:30:34 PM 1 Frog <f...@pond.com>
Email Backups

I am hoping SM has an easy way to backup emails. Right now I drag a folder to the external HD and that is my backup. One click and done. With Netscape I had to drill down to the email folder and drag that over....couldn't always find it, or even access it later. How do you backup your SM emails? D Taylor

3/9/2010 6:46:23 PM 2 FDVS <wtxv...@sbcglobal.net>
problem playing video email attachments with v2.0.3

There is a problem with ver 2.0.3 playing .wmv, .wma ...etc. from an email attachment. When the attachment is opened, windows media player (default media player) gives this error message: Windows Media Player cannot play the file because the specified protocol is not supported. If you typed a URL in the Open URL dialog box, try using a different transport protocol (for example, "http:" or "rtsp:"). Other people I know that use seamonkey email have the same problem. In order to view the videos I have to save them to a folder and open them from there. Previous versions of seamonkey did n

3/9/2010 6:30:46 PM 0 hbeachboy <hbeach...@aim.com>
lost bookmarks when creating subfolder went wrong

I'm running SM2.03 and this is what happened: my bookmarks toolbar was becoming a bit full, and I decided to create a new folder and drop some of the bookmarks into it to get a little more space. But I didn't want the folder to be named New Folder so I tried to rename it. However after I had dropped my bookmarks in, I noticed that the rename box was still up. I thought I had maybe called it up twice and cancelled. To my great surprise, my new folder (with its new name and bookmarks) disappeared completely! Is there any way to get them back? I noticed they are already gone from

3/9/2010 3:30:43 PM 0 Margo Guda <mhg...@yahoo.com>
Seamonkey as the default browser

I have checked every box I can think of and yet SeaMonkey keeps asking me if I wish it to be the default browser. How can I make it NOT do this ?

3/8/2010 4:53:24 PM 5 Richard Lee Holbert <rlhinte...@charter.net>
Is this a normal Problem in SM

Me and another SM2 user are running into a problem with viewing and writing messages. Both in email and newsgroup. http://phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeypicture002.png http://phillipmjones.net/SeaMonkeypicture003.png we both have in Preference(Options) appearance >Fonts western In Edit > Mail and Newsgroup Account setting every where mention about character encoding set , and in Preference(Options) Mail and news Character encoding, we have set to either ISO-8859-1 or UTF-8 come up with same problem. I've suggested other fellow to try Thunderbird, Postbox, or even Apple Mail

3/8/2010 3:35:16 PM 2 Phillip Jones <pjon...@kimbanet.com>
Locking SeaMonkey Window Size

Greetings: I'd like to "lock" the size of my SeaMonkey windows (both Mail and Browser) so that they won't always cover the entire screen edge to edge to allow a tiny sliver of the desktop on the left side to be exposed where I can drag items off the SeaMonkey browser screen onto the desktop without constantly having to resize it so after booting it up or resize the Mail window blocking it off beneath. Thanks for any hint. JimWG

3/8/2010 11:58:55 AM 1 James Greenidge <ji...@mac.com>
PowerPoint (.pps) attachment problem from gmail.com

Hello all, since I updated to SM 2.0.3 (I think), I can't read .pps attachments I=20 receive from people using a gmail accont. In the message window I see the attachment name in light grey, and the=20 attachment itself shown below the attachment line. Eg: file-name.pps _____________ =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=11=E0=A1=B1=1A=EF=BF=BD=1A I can't save the attachment, all the options are greyed out. This happens only if the attachment is a .PPS *and* is sent to me in a ne= w=20 message; if the same thing if forwarded, I receive it normally. The sender and I both have OSX Tiger,

3/8/2010 10:33:22 AM 0 Gabriele <inf...@onenet.it>
Seamonkey browser brings up wrong email program

When I click an email link on a web page in Seamonkey 2.0.3, it brings up the Seamonkey email client, which then asks me to create an account. The program I use for email is Thunderbird, and that's what is shown under Helper Apps. How do I get SM to bring up T-bird instead?

3/8/2010 3:29:12 AM 10 "Roger Fink" <f...@manana.org>
Java

I had a virus problem recently and one of the things I was told to do was to ensure Java updates were set to automatic. I have since changed to SM and wonder how to do this. Thanks Dave

3/8/2010 2:18:02 AM 5 FDVS <wtxv...@sbcglobal.net>
Default search engine in right click context menu

Hello *, I've changed my default search engine by adding a new one that uses a SSL connection. Then, I've changed the "keyword" option in about:config in order to use the same search engine too. Now all searches are redirected to my favorite search engine over SSL, except those I do by selecting something in a web page and using the option present in the context menu that pops up when you right click on a selected text. Whatever I do, the selected word is searched via Google over a normal connection. What option controls those searches? BTW, how can I delete the sear

3/7/2010 11:27:26 AM 3 Keep It Simple <keepitsim...@goldenrule.invalid>
SM2.1: Workaround for remote timestamp on downloads?

Hello world! As proposed in bug 178506, downloaded files are now assigned the last- modified timestamp from the remote server. This is a major annoyance in my opinion, but since even reasonable suggestions such as chaging the behaviour through a pref (bug 545392) fall on deaf ears, I guess this is one of those ideological deals which you can't argue about. Can somebody suggest a more convenient workaround than | If you want the timestamp on a file downloaded by Firefox to be | different from that on the server, you can change it yourself ? As you can tell from my asinine sense

3/7/2010 3:02:18 AM 0 Oliver Naumann <oli...@gmx.net>
Transferring Site Passwords

I recently installed SM 2.0.3 as a possible substitute for FF 3.5.8. I think the developers did a great job - they brought over the good stuff from FF3, and let the marginally useful stuff that people create extensions to remove stay where it was. Anyway, one difference I experienced between this version of SM and SM 1.x is that there seemed to be no easy way to transfer passwords. I had to print screenshots of all my password listings in FF and then go to each site in Seamonkey and login to create a saved password. Did I miss a work around on this? Also, since I am going to install

3/6/2010 6:57:58 PM 1 "Roger Fink" <f...@manana.org>
strange dock icon behavior

Hi Folks, Running SeaMonkey 2.0.3 on a Mac (OS 10.6.2), and over the past several days I've noticed a new, strange, and unwanted behavior. Until a few days ago, the SeaMonkey icon in my dock would show (in a red circle) the number of unread email messages, and would reduce that number as I read messages. As of a few days ago, the number stopped decrementing. If my mailbox is empty, all is fine, the number starts ticking up. Then I read mail and the number stays the same, until I restart SeaMonkey, at which point it resets to whatever number of unread messages are left.

3/6/2010 6:20:28 PM 1 Miles Fidelman <mfidel...@ntcorp.com>
Address Book question

It used to be, in Netscape, I could type the first letter of my best friend's name, "Jeff" into the address bar "To: j " while posting an email......and it would autofill Jeff and his email address. In Seamonkey, when I type "j" up comes the name and address of another friend, "Spike" with his email address. He has no j's in his name or his email address. So far I have accidentally sent Spike a couple of emails meant for Jeff. Not too embarrassing, as I normally don't post dubious stuff but I would like to find out why and fix it! Thanks! Dave

3/6/2010 4:26:23 PM 4 FDVS <wtxv...@sbcglobal.net>
Optiions/Character encoding problems

SM 1.1.18, Mac OS 10.6.2. I had occasionally been getting garbage characters showing up in my message text body that replaced apostrophes, and the like. When I checked Options/Character Encoding, I saw Western ISO-8859-1 was checked. For various reasons, I don�t like ISO-8859-1 and prefer Unicode UTF-8. That gets rid of the odd characters, but in a short time, they return, and when I check Options/Character Encoding, it has jumped back to putting a checkmark by ISO-8859-1 once again! All by itself. I did NOT change it. I finally went to Options/Character Encoding/Customize Lis

3/6/2010 5:38:03 AM 1 Keith Whaley <keit...@dslextreme.com>
Delays in loading pages

I find I am waiting for many webpages to load.....for 5 seconds plus, when normally they would be instantaneous. When they are loading, the progress strip at the bottom left says either: partner.googleadservies.com or google-analytics.com etc I suspect these are tracking devices that are slowing things down, is there anyway to disable them? How about disabling some of the ads that load with each page? Thanks

3/6/2010 12:33:53 AM 12 FDVS <wtxv...@sbcglobal.net>
Importing from Mozilla

With the latest version of SeaMonkey, will it import the entire profiles from both Firefox and Thunderbird automatically? If not, how will the individual profiles be merged into the bundled version? When I tried it, I ticked to import the entire profile, but only a few files came over. Finally, if not satisfied, can I go right back to FF & TB without moving files again. If not, how? Thanks in advance..

3/5/2010 8:24:02 PM 0 responder <respon...@bellsouth.net>
Web Page Download Continues After Page Is "Killed"

Running SeaMonkey 2.0.3 on Windows XP. My SeaMonkey home page is my bookmarks.html file, which obviously does not require any Internet connection. While a Web page is loading, if I select the Home button on my Navigation toolbar (moved from the Personal toolbar), my bookmarks complete load. However, I still see download activitive through my dial-up modem, sometimes 10s of kilobits. This also happens if I select the Stop button. Why does not SeaMonkey stop receiving packets? -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Go to Mozdev at <http://www.mozdev.org/> for quick ac

3/5/2010 6:14:31 PM 5 "David E. Ross" <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
What is the command for SeaMonkey

I can't find my notes and I want to look at the config, at leas I hope that is what it is where all the commands for seamonkey are. Age is getting longer and memory getting shorter. I thought it was aboutcfg: but I guess I am wrong. As I said earlier I keep losing mail and no warning either, I have it set to keep emails and warn me if delete but the last time the contents of the in box all disappeared. All I had done was click on an email. Right now I have them all marked unread so they won't disappear. Same in Trash if I mark them unread they stay but read and into limbo the

3/5/2010 4:42:04 PM 1 Lee <lbray5...@bellsouth.net>
Autoupdate of SeaMonkey 2.x.x

In a linux forum (puppylinux) I have a discussion with a guy who prefers FireFox because of the autoupdate function where updates are done in the background and only the changed files are replaced. Is there something like this in SeaMonkey and if no will it be there and when? -- [URL=http://users.kbc.skynet.be/fi001005] *Belgische Ardennen - Ardennes Belge [/URL]

3/5/2010 2:31:47 PM 29 Bernard Mercier <merci...@not.yahoo.this.com>
Disable specific Seamonkey components

Hi everybody, I'm sick and tired of Thunderbird 3 for various reasons and have started evaluating alternatives. Currently, I'm looking at Evolution and Seamonkey. As you all know every Seamonkey window has five buttons on the lower left - Browser, Mail & Newsgroups, Composer, Addressbook, and IRC-Chat. The tricky part is that I'm not evaluating Seamonkey to run it on my personal computer only, but to run it on our company XDMCP servers to switch ~1,200 users from Thunderbird/Firefox to Seamonkey. And obviously we don't want our users to run Composer or IRC-Chat, so the question is q

3/5/2010 10:05:47 AM 33 Martin Jungowski <mar...@rhm.de>
Manage Identities button is missing in SeaMonkey 2.0.3

Hi there, This is weird, I just realized that the button "Manage Identities" is missing from all of my mail accounts set on SeaMonkey 2.0.3 (on Windows XP)!? Has anybody experienced similar problem? What do I need to do to get "Manage Identities" button back so that I can add another idenity? Any help is greatly appreciated.

3/5/2010 5:04:37 AM 0 mindjoy <regr1...@vigord.com>
Mail in the In box just disappeared

Using Vista and SM 2.03 and I clicked on a new email and when I did they all disappeared. Any ideas. Tried to restore but also no luck. -- Lee (in Florida)US Army Retired Georgie Boy Cruise Master Logitech VidCam & Skype lee.g.bray

3/5/2010 3:32:48 AM 6 Lee <lbray5...@bellsouth.net>
Remote Content

How do I tell the Seamonkey email browser to accept all remote content, instead of asking me if I want to show it or not on each email? It is time-consuming to respond to each email in order to removed that info banner. Thanks Dave

3/5/2010 2:58:20 AM 6 FDVS <wtxv...@sbcglobal.net>
Ran Out Of Disk Space

Hello, I upgraded to SeaMonkey 2.0 and it appears that during the mail import & conversion process I ran out of disk space. Is there any way to re-initialize this process to import the remaining files, now that I have more space? TIA!! V/R Pat

3/4/2010 10:22:47 PM 4 Patrick <psaund...@ctica.com>
Recommend Batch Converter. Sorry. Wrong mail-list

Sorry for the Recommend Batch Odt - Doc Converter posting. Wrong mail list! Jim

3/4/2010 11:00:33 AM 0 James Greenidge <ji...@mac.com>
Recommend Best Batch Odt To Doc Converter

Greetings; I've come across several batch odt to doc converter macros, all very old and only do sxw and are cranky to get started. I'd like your recommendations on any that actually work. Thanks! Jim ..

3/4/2010 10:28:54 AM 1 James Greenidge <ji...@mac.com>
Seamonkey history recovery...

Howdy, I'm running Seamonkey "Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.3a3pre) Gecko/20100303 SeaMonkey/2.1a1pre" and have had troubles with exiting from Seamonkey and having Seamonkey fail to save my tabs. I am now faced with rebuilding my tabs from history but don't see any way to do that. I would just "copy" the history to a bookmark and then edit that bookmark. Am I missing something here? More than one something? Regards and THANKS for your help, George... "It's not what you know that hurts you, It's what you know that ain't so." Wil Rogers

3/4/2010 7:29:04 AM 0 George R Goffe <grgo...@yahoo.com>
How long is the bug processing delay?

Tomorrow is the 1st birthday of one of my bugs. It was reported properly, it was confirmed a few days later. Even though it was confirmed the status didn't change from NEW. And checking I see that your config of bugzilla doesn't include CONFIRMED, ASSIGNED, or even CLOSED. Is a year too soon to hope someone will at least acknowledge it exists, and do triage on it to tell me: - we will fix it someday - we don't plan to fix it, too trivial - we intended it to work that way Happy birthday https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481745 Bug 550060 waits confirmation, if any

3/4/2010 12:13:13 AM 4 Bill Davidsen <david...@tmr.com>
email attachments

"saving to disk" email attachments in the 10MB range seem to take a long time. Am I doing something wrong or is the attachment getting "scanned"?

3/3/2010 10:20:04 PM 1 Rick Merrill <Rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com>
50 Tests for Seamonkey css3 implementation

I presume Firefox would do as well or poorly, these actually work with some other browsers. The Coke can one works with SM. http://twitter.com/WilliamGail/statuses/9896362150 The question is if these are compliant with some new standard. No, DOM inspector is not a standard. -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot

3/3/2010 3:00:14 PM 6 Bill Davidsen <david...@tmr.com>
Printing Problems with 1.1.18

I'm having a lot of problems using 1.1.18 to print web pages. I'm only getting parts of pages, and it sometimes leaves off whole pages. Most of the time these pages print fine in IE. This situation seems to be getting worse. I'm not switching to 2.03 until they bring back Forms Manager. Any ideas?

3/3/2010 12:31:10 AM 5 Tom Pamin <scnr...@roadrunner.com>
Changing the reply format

Is it still the case with SM 2.x that you need to edit prefs.js (and set mailnews.reply_header_type) to change the reply header style, e.g. "on <date> <time>, <person> said:"? I was about to do this, but thought I'd better check that there isn't a preference GUI option that I should be using. -- Neil Hughes

3/2/2010 6:32:54 PM 1 Neil Hughes <nk...@o2.co.uk>
Exiting SeaMonkey v2.0.3, with multiple windows and tabs opened, and still remembering sessions when restoring.

Hello! I sometimes have SeaMonkey v2.0.3 with multiple windows and tabs opened. I noticed manually exiting it and relaunching it only brings back the last visited browser window with its tabs and not my other windows with tabs. How can I have it reshow all my opened windows and their tabs? I could terminate seamonkey.exe and relaunch, but it's ugly (deletes my caches and stuff since it think it crashed). Thank you in advance. :) -- "Cheerios: Hula-hoops for ants." --unknown /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |

3/2/2010 3:14:48 PM 6 Ant <...@zimage.comANT>
Chatzilla "Bookmarks"

I was just about to submit a RFE to Bugzilla, but thought I might just check here first!! Does Chatzilla have a "Bookmarks" equivalent, i.e. a list of the channels that I like, so I can just open Chatzilla an go to my "Bookmarks" and I'm in the group?? Closest I can see at the moment is, when I am already logged into a channel, I can go IRC->Join Channel, but if I'm not logged in anywhere, the "Join Channel" is greyed out. TIA Daniel

3/2/2010 12:57:33 PM 7 Daniel <d...@albury.nospam.net.au>
Problems with password manager

Hi all, I have Seamonkey on 2 computers - one with WXP - working well :-) ! Few days ago updated from 1.1.18 to 2.0.3. On the second computer with W2k I have one big trouble - in the password manager are no passwords listed !!!! But the password are stored, I am using this nice function really often. I compared the prefs.js files no significant differences. Some lines on the non-working installation deleted so the preferences are really near identical and still no any password in the list !!! I mean the window is completly clear. On the XP installation all OK, after pas

3/2/2010 6:58:39 AM 0 Grzegorz <mozi...@complex.org.pl>
Problem with imap

Dear support, I downloaded Seamonkey 2.0.3 and now for the first time I use the build-in mail program too. I've seen that imap seems to work for errors with this program. My account is a paid-account (GMX Promail) and imap is inclusive. Thunderbird works fine and shows me all subfolders in the inbox. Seamonkey shows me only the first subfolder. Can you tell me why, and how I can fix it? Thank you, Eloise

3/2/2010 1:21:41 AM 2 Eloise <elo...@gmxpro.de>
Repeated Rendering of a Web Page

Has anyone noticed a Web page loading, reloading, reloading again, without ever stopping with SeaMonkey 2.0.3? It looks as if Gecko were looping. I get this with Premier America Credit Union home page at <https://www.premier.org/>. You can see the effect without logging-on to an account. Actually, before I could logon, I had to select the Stop button. I did not have this problem with SeaMonkey 2.0.2. The IT department at Premier America Credit Union insists that the problem lies in Firefox 3.5 (which I have to spoof for that site). A supervisor in that department claims they

3/2/2010 1:20:30 AM 7 "David E. Ross" <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
Seamonkey 2.03

I have installed version 2.03 on another newer computer and am unable to send messages. I received the following notification Sending of message failed An error ocurred sending mail:Unable to authenticate to SMTP server shawmail.no.shawcable.net. It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but you have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck "Use name and password" for that server or contact the server provider Any assistance to solve this problem is appreciated. Thank you.

3/1/2010 11:59:32 PM 8 Frank Van Eynde <frankvaney...@shaw.ca>
Print difficulty

Hi guys. I've SM 1.1. 16. Lately, when I go to print an email from my Inbox, the Print button momentarily puts the appropriate box on the screen, but then the latter disappears. To do my printing, I have to use Print Preview and then click on Print - and this time the appropriate box stays in place and I can enter in instructions (like the range of pages to print). But how can I fix my little problem? Thanks - Ken (in Oz)

3/1/2010 9:51:24 PM 1 Ken <muf...@labyrinth.net.au>
Problem in copy pasting of multiple e-mail in address bar

1) I am using Seamonkey version 2.0.3. If I want to send an e-mail to more than one persons, I can not copy paste multiple e-mails from word and excel files to address bar. I have to copy paste each e-mail individually which takes longtime. Please solve my problem as soon as possible. 2) The E-mail client of Seamonkey does neither receive the mails nor send the mails despite of all server settings(POP and SMTP) are correctly configured. The only message it displays is " CONNECTION TO SERVER TIMED OUT" OR "FAILED TO CONNECT THE SERVER". FYI, I am using multiple e-mail accounts includ

3/1/2010 7:51:35 AM 2 "im.realistic" <im.realis...@gmail.com>
Walnut theme bug when composing message

When I click on Adress while composing an E-mail, I get a semi-transparent window with my contacts, but I can't select any recipients in said window. If I use the default theme or the Crystal theme, I have no problems at all. You can see it here: http://i46.tinypic.com/34gvsj6.png Lou

3/1/2010 5:35:39 AM 4 Lou <u...@domain.invalid>
lost inbox messages on 2.0.3 install over 1.1.7

I just loaded Seamonkey v. 2.0.3 over 1.1.17 and seem to have lost 43,000 messages in the Inbox. The install seemed normal and asked if i wanted to import a range of information, including mail which was selected. It imported all other boxes and profiles except my Inbox. Any suggestions appreciated. Regards, John Clemente

3/1/2010 1:47:41 AM 4 u...@domain.invalid
Lost inbox on 2.0.3 install

I just loaded Seamonkey v. 2.0.3 over 1.1.17 and seem to have lost 43,000 messages in the Inbox. The install seemed normal and asked if i wanted to import a range of information, including mail which was selected. It imported all other boxes and profiles except my Inbox. Any suggestions appreciated. Regards, John Clemente

3/1/2010 1:45:35 AM 1 u...@domain.invalid
coral ie tab

My primary computer hard drive went fried, and with it some of my SM 2.0.3 attachments (Win-XP ed3). One important one was Coral IE tab. With the new drive I go to the "Add-ons for SeaMonkey" page, find the correct attachment, highlight "SeaMonkey" and click on "download to SeaMonkey"; but it just takes me to a page to click on End-User License Agreement for ver. 1.63.20091024. There doesn't seem to be an option to approve the agreement; but when I click on "Download Now (windows)" it goes gray and I get the message: "To install Coral IE Tab and thousands of other Firefox add

2/28/2010 8:45:08 PM 2 Ken Rudolph <ke...@nospamkenru.net>
xsidebar

Since SM 2 is it necessary to use the xsidebar in able to use the various addons? -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else.

2/28/2010 6:34:02 PM 8 JAS <jaskin...@bbc.net>
Can't download this addon.

Hello. I get "Sorry, you need a Mozilla-based browser (such as Firefox) to install a search plugin." error when trying to download BugMeNot in Search Bar 20090724 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/downloads/latest/13259/addon-13259-latest.xml?src=addondetail) from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/13259 ... What's up? Is it incompatible with SeaMonkey v2.0.3? :( Thank you in advance. :) -- "They are like the ant... They start one way and turn around and go the other way... They look all the time at the ground and never see the sky." --Davi Kopen

2/28/2010 4:50:33 PM 2 Ant <...@zimage.comANT>
Nail & Newsgroup Account Settings and Leave Messages on Server Settings

Background: I decided to install SeaMonkey 2.0.3 on my system yesterday. I also intend to keep SeaMonkey 1.1.18 installed on my system. I allowed the 2.0.3 software to be installed in the default locations--I made absolutely no changes to this process. My operating system is Windows XP SP3. Subsequent Actions Since Installation: I established shortcuts on my Desktop for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 (one for mail and one for browser) and SeaMonkey 2.0.3 (one for mail and one for browser). Both shortcuts are working properly. Problem 1: I am having a problem with the entries lis

2/28/2010 3:57:48 PM 55 Frog <f...@pond.com>
seamonkey-2.x.. shortcomings (linux)

Hi all I am far from an experienced linux user, however I can find my way around a linux system. I use Puppy Linux which uses Seamonkey as the default browser. Now, in Seamonkey-1.x series I (and all other Puppy users) could drag a link or an image from the browser to a directory and wget would automatically start and download the file. Nice feature. In all seamonkey-2.x series so far this option seems not possible. I have tried static builds, official mozilla builds and have compiled seamonkey myself (several times) and still can not get this functionality. Is there a ./conf

2/28/2010 9:36:46 AM 4 01micko <01mi...@gmail.com>
Creating a desktob shortcut to mail in 1.1.8

I just added SeaMonkey 2.0.3 on my system. I anticipated that I would have to re-establish my ICONs for 1.1.8 on my desktop when I started this process. I, however, am having a memory moment--I can't remember where the mail short cut points to. The loading of the new 2.0.3 version is working just fine so far. Frog

2/27/2010 7:57:56 PM 11 Frog <f...@pond.com>
This is a notice I get when going to You Tube!

Your browser will be unsupported soon. Please upgrade to a modern browser. -- Lee (in Florida)US Army Retired Georgie Boy Cruise Master Logitech VidCam & Skype lee.g.bray

2/27/2010 7:16:55 PM 9 Lee <lbray5...@bellsouth.net>
Email Replies with Included Items

If I reply to an email (SM 2.03) that has an included item, such as a small Excel spreadsheet, I delete the sheet, and the characters disappear but the formatting box (red squares) remains. Is there any way to remove this remaining part of the Excel sheet? Thanks for any assistance.

2/27/2010 12:30:40 PM 0 nr <newsrea...@midsouth.rr.com>
Sent subfolder regenerates by itself

I have 3 E-Mail accounts plus my Local Folder. After I upgraded to SM2, an empty Sent subfolder appeared inside the regular Sent folder in my Local Folders. If I delete it, it goes away, but reappears the next time I run SM. Is there any way that I can get rid of it for good. Can I also get rid of the Sent folder inside the Local Folders, since I don't use it (the 3 E-mail accounts have their own Sent folder). Local Folders | --- Sent | | | --- Sent << This is the one that bugs me. Any help would be appreciated, Lou Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en

2/27/2010 6:37:39 AM 0 Lou <u...@domain.invalid>
Adobe Flash Player

Has anyone been able to get the new Flash Player to install on Windows? Instead of just downloading an executable to run, they've decided to get fancy and use Mozilla's "XPI" package instead. The only problem is, when you try to install it, you get a message telling you it isn't compatible with Seamonkey 2.0.3!! WTF?? Has anyone gotten this to work? http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ -- Jaime A. Cruz President Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club http://www.nassauwings.org/ AMA District 34 http://www.AMADistrict34.com/ Pop's Run http://www.popsrun.org/

2/27/2010 2:56:24 AM 4 "Cruz, Jaime" <Spamm...@Bite.Me>
View Message Body As Bug

In SM2/TB3, if I save a message as a .eml file and then open it from the File menu, it opens in a new window in which the "View Message Body As" feature does not work. The selection button moves, but the view does not change. This only happens with a saved file. If a regular message is displayed in a separate window, the "View Message Body As" feature works correctly. -- David Wilkinson

2/26/2010 9:56:49 PM 0 David Wilkinson <no-re...@effisols.com>
Seamonkey has quit working with Google Maps!

A couple of days ago, both versions 1.18 and 2.x of Seamonkey quit working with Google Maps and it's a REAL PAIN. Does anyone know why?? I put in an address and click on it and it comes up on the left side of Google Maps but NOT in the map area and clicking on the left side does nothing. I cant keep using this browser if it quits working.

2/26/2010 8:05:46 PM 28 "Devil's_Advocate" <Devils_Advoc...@devils_.xyx>
Migration help needed 1.1.18 to 2.0.3

So today I decided to update my last 1.1.18 hold out to 2.0.3 and I have some issues, most likely from an improperly performed upgrade (my fault). Can I get some help fixing this. I installed the 2.0.3 into the 1.1.18 directory, bad mistake. At that point I could not get Seamonkey to work at all. I uninstalled 2.0.3 and then reinstalled into the default directory, which was different for 2.x than 1.1.x. At this point 2.0.3 works fine and I was able to import most of my settings. I was not able to import mail or news though. I then reinstalled 1.1.8 and am using that to comp

2/26/2010 6:40:43 PM 4 hawker <haw...@ashevillecommunity.org>
another one search engine

I would like to have nigma.ru instead of or both with google. Please, tell me the way how to add nigma there. -- /4625 () �������� ascii ribbon - ������ ����� � html ������� /\ www.asciiribbon.org - ������ ������������� ��������

2/26/2010 2:17:37 PM 0 4625 <4625...@gmail.com>
Re: Turn Composer into a full-fledged word processor?

Greetings: I didn't intend to cause any heated discussion with this topic. I merely wanted to know whether a Composer "word-processor enhancement" plug-in was technically possible via a third party or hacker. I wasn't demanding it, though it'd be awfully fun to have in your quiver, especially since "cloud"-type word processors like Zoho have given exclusive attention to plugging in their features into MS Office and Word. Jim in Queens NY

2/26/2010 12:47:31 PM 0 James Greenidge <ji...@mac.com>
SM2: Imap folder syncronisation

Hi! I'm looking into migrating several users from 1.1.18 to SM 2. On a test-run I realised that folder synchronisation seems to be on as a default in SM 2. (This spilled 15GB of junk into my test-profile.) I see that it can be turned off manually in the settings, but I would prefer to turn it off once and for all, because mail shoud stay on the imap-server only anyway. Is there a user-pref to turn off synchronisation completely? -- Matthias

2/26/2010 10:06:17 AM 4 Matthias Kahlert <ImightreadmailtothisadressorimightnotbutinanycasesendmeNOS...@kahlert.at>
Odd Characters in Sidebar Search

Ever since 2.x, the sidebar search entry field turns spaces into % symbols after a search is performed. For instance, I have Google as the default, and when I type in "some thing with spaces" and hit return, the entry line becomes "some%thing%with%spaces" (that was a direct copy/paste) while the actual Google website page search field contains "some thing with spaces" UNTIL I click the sidebar search button again, then the web page field is populated with "some%thing%with%spaces" Any idea why? Character encoding is the default western (ISO-8859-1). Running SM 2.0.3 on Windows 7

2/26/2010 1:16:43 AM 3 Dean Scott <dasc...@chrusion.com>
Turn Composer into a full-fledged word processor?

Greetings: A clueless non-techie just asking you mavens out there; Is it possible via special plug-ins to turn Composer into a full-fledged word processor? Thanks for any remarks. Jim

2/25/2010 12:37:51 PM 10 James Greenidge <ji...@mac.com>
Warning to upgrade

Why is 2.0.3 telling me there's a new version available and I should download 2.0.3? Is it looking at the version of the default SM in /usr/bin instead of what I'm running which is 2.0.3 (not pre on this machine)? I leave the distribution default in /usr/bin and run the latest stable or pre out of /usr/local/ instead. This is not an error report, I'd just like to know why in case I set up a user this way. -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot

2/24/2010 11:39:15 PM 2 Bill Davidsen <david...@tmr.com>
Bad certificate for Pay Pal

Error says Pay pal has a bad certificate . Paypal support directed me to Verisign to update the Certificate .. Suposivly did it But Still ger lots od Certificate Errors. Pay pal support Now says MY certificate is no good I look in certificates and I HAVE NONE . I am using seamonkey 2.03 win 7 pro Pay pal support says to go to microsoft web site and get a New ROOT certificate . My Question is How? When I use control panel to check For updates It only tells me that I am all updated.. Win 7 Has never taken me to a Microsoft Update site Like XP did . www.paypalobjects.com:

2/24/2010 8:02:28 PM 4 question <tr...@try.biz>
How to use SeaMonkey to do ftp uploads?

I remember, back in the day, that Netscape permitted browsing to an ftp site and dragging and dropping files for upload to the site. I think that was also possible with Mozilla. With SeaMonkey 2.02, any time I try to drag and drop a file onto an ftp site, SeaMonkey thinks I'm trying to download a file. Is there any way to use SeaMonkey for ftp uploads to sites?

1/19/2010 3:31:36 PM 0 robert.ga...@att.net
SeaMonkey v2.0.2's crashreporter segfault in my Debian/Linux box.

Hello. My SM crashed and then I filled out a crash report. I sent(?) it and told it to quit. Then, I noticed this in my dmesg: [88803.638461] crashreporter[17975]: segfault at b6fc6ad0 ip b6fc6ad0 sp bf88e46c error 4 in libnss_files-2.10.2.so[b700d000+a000] I have no idea if my report went through or not. :) FYI: $ locate libnss_files-2.10.2.so /lib/libnss_files-2.10.2.so $ ls -all /lib/libnss_files-2.10.2.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 42572 2009-11-24 02:49 /lib/libnss_files-2.10.2.so Thank you in advance. :) -- "What do ants and bees use for cattle?" --Tom /\___/\

1/19/2010 8:21:35 AM 3 Ant <...@zimage.comANT>
VML/SVG

I'm using SM 2.0.2 When I use the Best Western web site, it whines that my browser does not support SVG and VML. I don't know what those are, but it appears to be related to using a map they display. Is there an add-on I can use to get this capability. Its hard to pick one from the plugin site when I don't even know what I am looking for.

1/19/2010 1:49:37 AM 4 "...@home" <...@home.net>
How to start SM Browser with a =?ISO-8859-1?Q?sp=E9cific_page/?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?file?=

I have a link on my desktop to Start SM Browser. Using it bring me SM Browser with his "Home page". Is it possible to modify a copy of this link in such a way that the browser start and display a sp�cific page like: file:///C:/Program Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html ? (in case SM is not the default browser)

1/18/2010 11:26:04 PM 3 Ray_Net <TBRRaymond.Schmit...@TBRscarlet.be>
SeaMonkey always starts as a BLANK PAGE

SeaMonkey always starts as a BLANK PAGE even though I have preferences set to "Home Page" and "www.Google.com"! This is aggravating and weird, WHY would it do that and how can I stop it??? THANKS

1/18/2010 10:46:03 PM 0 BearKing55 <DaveGil...@aol.com>
SM2 pop up blocker

So I have been using SM2 for a few weeks at home (but not here at the office yet) now and am relatively happy with it. One thing I like is how SM2 blocks pop ups over SM1.x. The one issue is if I want the pop up there is no option to accept it like there is in FireFox. Is there a setting to make the pop up blocking more like FireFox where I can choose to override it for that one instance?

1/18/2010 2:35:21 PM 1 hawker <haw...@ashevillecommunity.org>
Form Assistance Add-Ons

It appears that no one is searching for what the best 'Form Filler Add-On' might be, and that no one is dis-satisfied with the 'Form Filler Add-On' they are using. Trying to fill the void left by the removal of the Form Manager in SM 1.x.x, I have found ''AutoFill Forms'' and ''InFormEnter'' to be sufficient ... Jus', in case there is anyone out there looking for an opinion of what 'Form Filler Add-On' others are using. - MikeyG

1/18/2010 10:36:50 AM 3 MikeyG <contactbyp...@hatespam.net>
Can't enter this site w/SM 2.0.2

http://www.spruebrothers.com/ Can load the site, but clicking the "enter store" gets me a parsing error. I can get in with Safari and/or Opera. I assume it's an issue with the site, as I can no longer get into it with SM 1.1.18 either... -- - Rufus

1/18/2010 7:40:33 AM 1 Rufus <...@home.com>
Fix some of the aggravating bugs.. please

I should be grateful for the upgrade that fixes security issues. But could someone not fix some of the really aggravating bugs. Specifically when you use desktop icons (URL Shortcuts) to launch SM you have to suffer a windows error message.. can not find file... are you sure you typed it correctly... This has been there since 2.0.... FIX IT (please)

1/18/2010 4:45:34 AM 0 Ralph <Ra...@Edmonton.net>
mazdausa.com

I got a first one today. When I try to visit www.mazdausa.com with SM 2.0, I get the mobile phone version of the website. If I go with FF, then I get the standard version. I tried switching the user agent via the user agent swither extension to FF/Linux, FF/WinXP, and IE/WinXP, but still get the mobile version. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091027 SeaMonkey/2.0

1/18/2010 3:33:38 AM 0 Lou <u...@domain.invalid>
Seamonkey and DirecTV login???

DirecTV changed their software a few weeks ago, over the holiday slowdown, and since that weekend when it was down, it wont let me login anymore using Seamonkey, I have to use Internet Explorer now to login.

1/14/2010 7:34:11 AM 1 "Devils_Advocate" <Devils_Advoc...@devils_.xxx>
Unable to send a mail to To: <name@hostname.info>

SM shows this mail adress <name@hostname.info>in red and the send action was unsuccessful. When i prepared this incident report ... i tried to re-send a mail to the same adress to document the sent-error message .. but the mail was sent ..grr.... :-) So i cannot tell you what was the error. The only problem now, is the fact that the mail adress <name@hostname.info> is show in red. Any idea about those two problems ?

1/13/2010 11:56:27 PM 0 Ray_Net <TBRRaymond.Schmit...@TBRscarlet.be>
Lost my Add-on with SM 2.0.2. last update

I can't succeed in getting my favourite SM theme after the latest update (that crashed the first time I did it). I checked out the compatibility of some of the themes, they are installed properly in my browser but they don't apply when I reboot SM. I can only use the default one.

1/13/2010 7:56:46 PM 4 canalgi <cana...@gmail.com>
SM2 New Update won't Show weather.com satellite

Ever since SNM2 updated itself ~36 hours ago (and crashed in the process of updateiong all my machines), the local weather satellite screen at weather.com (the one that you can put into motion zoom in/out) will not render. What was introduced in 2.0.2 that breaks this? -sw

1/13/2010 5:57:13 PM 2 Sqwertz <swe...@cluiemail.compost>
New SeaMonkey install question about space bar misbehavior

Hi, I am new and happy to have recently discovered seamonkey on my 7 month old MBP 17". I installed 2.02 the other day, and coincidently found my spacebar was acting erratic. Sometimes it would be working right, andsometimes it would not. Like just then. Is it possible something happened when Iinstalled seamonkey or could this just be a complete coincidence? Thanks in Advance. Mona in Tallahassee

1/13/2010 4:41:04 PM 0 Mona Lisa Abbott <m...@monalisaphoto.com>
bookmarks do not transfer, everything else does.

The idea is to clone 2.01 from machine 1 (aka M1)to Machine 2 (aka M2) and the particulars of my last failures follow: So far, Sea Monkey 2.0.1 has defeated me on this insofar as bookmarks. Plan A 1. Uninstalled SM 2.0.1 from M2. 2. Reinstalled SM 2.0.1 on M2 without launching SM after install complete. 3. Copied entire SM profile (about 34 subdirectories) from Doc. & Set. in M1 to M2. 4. Prepped prefs.js by doing mass change of M1 name (jim) to M2 name (PC1) (operation detail -- Qedit reported 11 changes made, EXCEPT I did not change 2 entries specifically for IRC in P

1/13/2010 3:22:17 PM 2 jim <...@earthlink.com>
Form Managers / Fillers

Does anyone have experience with the different Form Managers / Fillers Add-Ons that are out there? I am one of the folks that migrated to FF and TB because SM2 did away with the Form Manager SM1 used; figuring that there was no sense to stay with SM any longer. Is there an Add-On that is darn, close to being similar to SM's Old Form Manager? I currently, use Form History; it has in the past, removed some of the Form data that was in there at 1 time. 'Time & Usage Criteria' has not had either box checked; I did check them once, entered 999,999 into the 'Days' and 0 into the 'Tim

1/13/2010 1:45:51 PM 13 MikeyG <contactbyp...@hatespam.net>
SM 2.02, Ubuntu, heavy CPU load

Upon upgrade af SM to version 2.02 this morning I notice that SM is - still - rather slow, like it was in the previous releases. I've installed the GTK distributions on my Ubuntu 9.10 work station equipped with 4 1.60 GHz processors and 4GB RAM. While working, for example saving a mail/news posting, SM will sometimes for a while take more than 50% CPU; and even while idle will inbetween take 20% CPU. During startup SM can take up to 98% CPU. It may influence the CPU load that I use to have half a dozen browser tabs open? I've got the figures above by monitoring SM through Ub

1/13/2010 1:43:19 PM 5 Christian Mondrup <rec...@daimi.au.dk>
Don't remove SM1 after installing SM2

I am under Windows XP SP3 and i finally have installed SM2.0.2 without any problem till now :-) except the following. This is to inform everybody that he should - First use add/remove program to Remove SM1. - Then Install SM2 by running the donwloaded SeaMonkey Setup 2.0.2.exe. I had installed SM2 without removing first SM1: - I encountred a mixed between SM1 and SM2 in the "Start" - "All Programs" - "Seamonkey" - Then to eliminate the mix - i used add/remove program to Remove SM1. - The mix dissappeared - so far so good - BUT also the link to start SM2 by using "Start" - "Al

1/13/2010 1:39:05 PM 8 Ray_Net <TBRRaymond.Schmit...@TBRscarlet.be>
SeaMonkey does not start after update

Dear users of SeaMonkey, I was using Seamonkey 1.8 under Windows 7 Professional until yesterday on my Notebook. Yesterday evening an automatic update notice popped up and asked me whether I wanted to install the next version of SeaMonkey. I answered yes, had to authorise the administration tool for the user accounts of my notebook to accept certain modifications which were supposed to be carried out during the installation. No error message appeared. But since this update procedure has executed all its files, SeaMonkey does not start any more. When I click directly on the link on t

1/13/2010 12:35:30 PM 9 Claus <claus.stei...@googlemail.com>
SeaMonkey 2.0.2 on Snow Leopard - Mail Folders Problem

Hi there, I just installed SeaMonkey here on my Mac and am using my .Mac account with it. However, there are many old, now removed, folders showing up in the IMAP folder list. I have tried deleting them but they keep coming back! I also took them off the Offline browsing list. No change. Each time I open SM mail I get many error messages indicating the folder doesn't exist (one message for folder). Ii did have SeaMonkey installed previously probably a year ago, and have also had ThunderBird on here as well (no longer resident), so I'm wondering if this is something to

1/13/2010 11:47:53 AM 7 Lynn Q <manxc...@mac.com>
chk

jim

1/13/2010 1:08:10 AM 2 jim <jmk...@optusnet.com.au>
lose of folders on migration 2.0.2

OK I did it again moved from 1.1.18 to 2.0.2 and it got worse. last attempt by using all preset option old version was removed this time it stayed in place not all files migrated this is the end result of my main profile any comments thanks ************************pasted from directory*************** C:\Documents and Settings\Smiles\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\ro06av8e.slt\Mail\mail.XXX.ca =========================================================================================================== beavers-church beavers-church.msf client

1/12/2010 11:48:35 PM 2 Smiles <smile_inspec...@hotmail.com>
invoke composer

When I go to "edit" an HTML or HTM document I would like Windows XP sp3 to know to use composer for the job. After installing SM2.0._ Word takes over! SM1 used to do this just fine. Is there a fix to the registry to make .HTM or .HTML files "edit" with Composer?

1/12/2010 9:39:26 PM 5 Rick Merrill <Rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com>
SeamonkeyV2.0.1-unable to send emails after migration

Hi, i did migrate from V.1.1.18 to V.2.0.1 using a zip-file. During some tests i found that i cannot send any email. Send ends with following error-msg: > Sending of message failed. > An error occurred sending mail: Unable to authenticate to SMTP server > mailto.t-online.de. It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but > you have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'Use name and password' > for that server or contact your service provider. my earlier SM migrations did copy the profile/definition and could be used unchanged. Question: Where do i find the locat

1/12/2010 4:12:05 PM 8 Karl <karl.Stein...@t-online.de>
Ping Chris Ilias

I think that sometime ago Chris posted that he wasn't maintaining his website: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/ Chris, any plans to update for 2.x? Or, perhaps turn the site into a wiki so that others can update etc? Thanks & BTW it's still an *excellent* SM resource.

1/12/2010 4:12:42 AM 0 NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid>
SM2.0.1: Still Getting Random "Set as Default Home Page"

Nobody else is seeing this behavior? I didn't get any sympathizers last time I posted this. Sometimes when I press the Home Button (which has been moved to the navigation bar, if that matters), a dialog pops up that asks me if I want to set the new home page as the default. I have finally managed to reproduce the problem 3 out of 25 times by switching between my desktop running a RealVNC client E4.2.8 connected to another Windows XP box running a VNC server (free edition 4.1.3). When I switch back to my local desktop and press the Home button, the erratic dialog box sometimes ap

1/12/2010 3:00:19 AM 3 Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
Re: Address Book Syncing

MCBastos wrote: > Zindus seems to be a bit more focused on Zimbra (which I don't use) than > gMail, Just to be clear - the zindus addon doesn't focus on Zimbra in preference to Google. In fact, due to the relative size of the user bases, the reverse has probably been true of late. But it's true that the zindus addon isn't google-specific, see: http://www.zindus.com/blog/2008/04/22/a-contact-sync-server-for-thunderbird/ Philip Chee wrote: > In the SeaMonkey 2.1, Thunderbird 3.2 timeframe a Thunderbird developer, > jcranmer, plans to rewrite the addressbook APIs to make them s

1/12/2010 2:07:30 AM 0 Leni <mozilla....@zindus.com>
chk

test only .jim

1/12/2010 12:27:06 AM 1 jim <jmk...@optusnet.com.au>
about:crashes invalid url SM 2.0.3pre linux - 64bit

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8pre) Gecko/20100110 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.3pre Anyone else getting this message in the 64bit version of SeaMonkey? - In the url bar enter: about:crashes - Result on this system: Alert! The URL is not valid and cannot be loaded. Works just fine on my 32bit SM - same 2.0.3pre version.

1/11/2010 10:08:17 PM 3 NoOp <gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid>
video problem/question

Trying to watch a video on SM 1.1.18 without success. Tried FF 3.5.6 and was successful. Below is URL. Any suggestions other than going to SM2. http://www.thefoxnation.com/judge-andrew-napolitano/2010/01/11/judge-andrew-napolitanos-constitution-and-freedom-part-1 Thanks

1/11/2010 8:41:52 PM 3 Norvin <bluego...@prodigy.spam.net>

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